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airport with person I've been applying

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there - found and is now in the

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possession of the RA the game is rigged

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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two black with your host Jimmy church on

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the game-changer Radio Network and a GRA

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your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game changing Network

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good evening

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that's right and it is Tuesday October

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some are in the middle of beautiful

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world

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planet I am your host to be Church what

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is cracking everybody how you do it

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tonight is night number two of our

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Halloween week here

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and tonight we have with this Maureen

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wood and she's gonna be sharing her

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favorite ghost stories from her two

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books co-authored with Ron collect the

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ghost radicals and more ghost chronicles

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there it is right there holding it up to

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the camera tomorrow night sha balloon

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which back for the fifth annual loon

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which evening right here

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Halloween night special event taking

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card pop aah pop tarot readings all

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night's gonna be amazing

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Thursday night Adrienne Valera is back

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with us to tell us about the Washington

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DC disclosure fest mass meditation and

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their get go so that's gonna be all

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that will be lined up I'll announce all

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of that in the timing of it and how

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calm and you can follow me on twitter @

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JT radio what is it with the tacos Oh

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Taco Tuesday I can't you guys are funny

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see the Taco Tuesday that's pretty good

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actually the Taco Tuesday gifts you can

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of a bunch of baloney there alright so

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Boston gangster James Whitey Bulger was

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ties one fotios Freddy gi's was being

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investigated for the slang you think

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that there's some Italian stuff there

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fotios Freddy gi's the US Bureau of

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whitey bulger and what was man I don't

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Twitter really quick what was the movie

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with Johnny Depp right there was the one

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with Johnny Depp where he played whitey

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DiCaprio the departed I said well is

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that what that was called man I can't

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even remember both were actually really

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really good movies and unless you knew

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you know who whitey was or if you were

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from a boss and her Southie or whatever

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of those things that came in wet but

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that they captured him he was 16 years

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on the run and just popped up here in

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Monica they go in and I don't even know

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if this was reported nationally but it

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Monica like like it was all good

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it was called thank you for that beavis

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and butthead Black is something come on

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you guys can do better than that what

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remember all right it's pretty good

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we're gonna do this as early as Monday

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Rita can I say something about this you

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know those things that go around the

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wrists can I can I say something black

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mass that's what it was called black

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mass thank you for that Frank wasn't the

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debt movie called powder Sandra that's

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to the cameras but anyway I look for

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she's the boss all right let's get this

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show cracking happy birthday to today

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Bush remember Bush Bush Bush frontman

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the Fonz Henry Winkler is 73 years old

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Fonz today is 73

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years old on this day in history 1938 it

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nationwide panic with the broadcast of

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War of the Worlds that's right that

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realistic radio dramatization of a

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Martian invasion of Earth there was a

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now we go to the whatever Hotel in

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Manhattan worthy it was some Spanish guy

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office this has been vetted by the way

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Ronald Reagan was offered the role of

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you do that's right you're a Hollywood

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pillar of knowledge right now with that

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fader fact tonight is night number two

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of our Halloween week right here on fade

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tonight Maureen wood is going to be here

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she co-authored a book two books or

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three four books with Ron Kolak the

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latest is called mo-more ghost

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chronicles book one is called the ghost

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chronicles and and tonight she's gonna

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tell us her favorite ghost stories from

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both books all right so that's what

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we're gonna do tonight tomorrow night

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shop the Loon which is gonna be here

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we're gonna do one two three card tarot

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readings for you all night long we'll

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bust through about a hundred phone calls

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tomorrow night so line up get ready

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early and we'll get right through it and

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it'll be an amazing Halloween night and

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thank you for sharing your and spending

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your a Halloween night with us tomorrow

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night I really look forward to this

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Thursday night Adrian valera is going to

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be here and we're gonna have a full

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lineup of guests all night long because

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we're going to be talking

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about the Washington DC disclosure fest

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mass meditation the cleansing of

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11/11 at 11:11 at the Lincoln Memorial

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right the steps of the Lincoln Memorial

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so that will be Thursday night all right

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man sometimes I just got a talk

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and right now you got to listen I'm

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gonna hit this River moon coffee and

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let's talk Need to Talk

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Academy Arts and Sciences or whatever

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they call that thing TTS a were in Italy

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to give a presentation now the Italian

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UFO group si UN hosted it in Rome a

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couple of days ago on October 27th 2018

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and Elizondo discussed some UFO history

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including the famous 1952 Washington DC

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event and this is what Elizondo said and

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I am quoting here he said in the early

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1950s the United States had another very

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significant event over our nation's

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capital once again these objects were

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identified both with the naked eye and

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again on radar and unlike Roswell many

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people had cameras and were able to take

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photographs and what you see here are

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real photographs along with the story

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the headline story that came out now

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behind him as he's doing this he's given

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this presentation he's doing this

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PowerPoint and there it is the slide

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pops up and on this slide there were a

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couple of pictures and elizondo's

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pictures in this presentation came from

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the internet the slide that he had

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running behind him was composed of two

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images the first one is a frame from a

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CGI animated version of a picture of a

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lens flare from UFOs the secret evidence

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so it wasn't a picture of the Capitol in

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1952 and the second image in the slide a

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black and white version of an image from

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the 1954 comic book weird science

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fantasy number 26 that was found in the

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files of Project Blue Book now I have

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seen the video from the conference and

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I've just got to say this it made me

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more than a little uncomfortable which

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for me is usually a good thing but in

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this case it was the bad version of

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uncomfortable let me explain the good

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version just so you understand where I'm

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coming from

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in less than one lifetime ago just one

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in 1929 Edwin Hubble discovered the real

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universe and up until that time there

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were no get ready for it galaxies in

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1929 listen to me all Edwin wasn't

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comfortable he was uncomfortable he was

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uncomfortable with the explanations of

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the stars of space in a very short order

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he changed everything because the 1929

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science said that there was only one

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galaxy and today that number is around

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400 billion and those are just the ones

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it's very very simple when you are

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comfortable nothing gets done questions

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are not asked change is not made in fact

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you just stagnate because you're

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comfortable you don't step outside the

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bounds you don't wander you don't do

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anything you do other things because

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you're comfortable do you really want me

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to make you uncomfortable you want me to

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make you think right make you ask some

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questions well chew on this now get back

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to DeLong and Elizondo in a second I'll

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tie it all together I always do but you

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on this dark energy is increasing the

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speed of expansion of our universe dark

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energy was discovered because people

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scientists were uncomfortable and trying

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to figure out what is going on the

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farther out you go to the edges of our

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universe the faster things are moving

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now something that is 1 times the

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distance from us it's moving two times

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out the distance from us it's actually

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moving at two times speed three times

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you go the further out you go it

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multiplies things are ripping fast in

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expansion the further out you go and

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these distances are so great that now at

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the horizon of everything those objects

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stars planets galaxies are approaching

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the speed of light we can still see them

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theoretically but soon they'll reach the

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speed of light and beyond that's right

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think about that they'll be moving

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faster than the light that they create

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just think about that for a second

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seriously they're there but they are not

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it's like poof out running the light

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that they create now this takes us into

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a real uncomfortable zone and that's

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okay because I like it that's a good

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place to be we need to be uncomfortable

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with a thought like that you don't want

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to be comfortable you don't want to let

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that go

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right you you want to figure that out

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why what's going on

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and at the edge of the you know you

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always wondered what is out there the

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edge of the universe is is being created

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by things that disappear that's right so

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once they cross that line they're gone

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they're not in the blackness of space

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they are out running their own light the

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bad place is when you have someone like

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Elizondo that bad uncomfortable like I

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have had with him is when you have

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someone like Elizondo getting up in

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front of a UFO audience and is supposed

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to be some kind of authority on the

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subject and discussing history history

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as fact and gets it that history wrong

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and not just wrong but ufology 1:01

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wrong everyone and I mean everyone

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everyone studying the UFO subject knows

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that there are no pictures of the 1952

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Washington DC UFO incident everybody

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knows that everybody except apparently

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Elizondo and that my friends makes me

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very uncomfortable the bad version now

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I'm gonna read his statement again and I

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want you to understand and remember this

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as he said these words he had his

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PowerPoint slide up with the images

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behind him for the audience and I'm

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quoting this is what he said in the

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early 1950s the United States had

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another very significant event over our

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nation's capital

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once again these objects were identified

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both with the naked eye and again on

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radar and unlike Roswell many people had

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cameras and were unable to take

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photographs

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I said unable I'm sorry many people had

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cameras and were able to take

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photographs I have something in my

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throat and what you see here are real

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photographs along with the story the

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headline story that came out had this

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happened at a conference in the States

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I could only imagine what would have

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occurred and I'm serious here I'm

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talking about flying Tomatoes right come

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to mind it would have been ugly I can

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officially say then I can't take Luis

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serious anymore

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I tried I really did I had said over and

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over again my fingers are crossed when

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it comes to TT si and that was after the

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mylar balloon that was after everything

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else is just craziness that had happened

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all of it

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right but for me it's community first

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and you just cannot present false

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inaccurate and completely made-up

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information to the public

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the excitement behind December 16 2017

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the day of disclosure it was awesome

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and we were all on

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for the bull the good version and

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because we didn't just sit still and lay

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down the community was able to focus on

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what was really happening and since then

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things have just unraveled forty TSA now

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the Italian incident may very well be

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the end of days forty TSA and I know

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this Louis Elizondo really needs to take

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a few years off to study he does he's

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got a back up he's got a lot to learn

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you just can't come into this community

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with his background and to alright to

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teach us our history and get it wrong

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it's a bad bad move trust me when I say

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this when you show up at a UFO

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conference probably 95% of everybody

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that you see around you knows more than

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you it's the way that it is three years

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from now lewis can come back he can come

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back go go study woodshed and then come

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back and take the ufology 101 test and

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we'll see if he passes right now it's

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just one big epic fail and I'm very

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comfortable in saying that seriously I

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just can't go for it I can't I've said

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it before I'll say it again my fingers

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were crossed I was hoping that things

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would turn around and things would get

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right and so forth now I I'm forced to

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go back and look at what happened with

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the infamous mylar balloon incident at

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their presser live which they dismissed

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as an honest mistake and then this the

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difference is simple and listen to me

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I'm going to be very clear you want to

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dismiss one as a mistake

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fine this he said clearly

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these are photographs from the

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Washington DC incident over the Capitol

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in 1952

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unlike Roswell people had pictures and

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here they are you can't do that here I

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can only imagine I can only imagine if

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that was done here in the States

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at au pars meeting here in Los Angeles

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were there are some ufologists there

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they would just stand up and start

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yelling dude there's no pictures of that

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what are you talking about get out of

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here it would have gotten ugly and I'm

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not kidding about that you just can't do

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the kick or the MUFON symposium and

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present something like that with some

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real historian sitting in the audience

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that know the facts can't do it this is

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bad and I am not comfortable think about

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that this is fade to black

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I'm your host Jimmy Church and I'm not

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picking I'm just saying this community

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comes first

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cannot you cannot continue to do this

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you just can't but now we're gonna have

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some fun it's night two of our Halloween

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week and Maureen wood is here she's

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gonna tell us her favorite ghost stories

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I'll be right back

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all right welcome back fade to black

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coming up super church night two of our

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Halloween week right here on fade to

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black

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tonight Maureen wood is here tomorrow

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night's cha the moon which we're gonna

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do a hundred phone calls a hundred tarot

608
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:45,080
readings tomorrow night unpaid the black

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this is our fifth annual Halloween

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special with sha balloon witch but

611
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tonight it's Maureen wood and Maureen is

612
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a fifth-generation psychic trance medium

613
00:34:00,159 --> 00:33:58,129
for as far back as she can remember she

614
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has communicated with the dead and at

615
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the age of 15 she was introduced to a

616
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woman who studied with Laurie Cabot the

617
00:34:09,849 --> 00:34:07,089
official witch of Salem Massachusetts

618
00:34:11,859 --> 00:34:09,859
Maureen is currently the lead a psychic

619
00:34:14,289 --> 00:34:11,869
medium for the New England Ghost project

620
00:34:16,690 --> 00:34:14,299
in the former co-host of the popular

621
00:34:19,470 --> 00:34:16,700
ghost chronicles radio show there you go

622
00:34:22,059 --> 00:34:19,480
Maureen also starred in the emmy-winning

623
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:22,069
American builder Halloween special

624
00:34:27,879 --> 00:34:24,169
Maureen has also written three books

625
00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:27,889
with Ron Kolak more ghost chronicles as

626
00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:29,030
stories from the realm of the unknown

627
00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:31,369
the unexplained and the unbelievable the

628
00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:33,260
ghost chronicles a medium and paranormal

629
00:34:40,569 --> 00:34:35,990
scientists investigates 17 true

630
00:34:43,210 --> 00:34:40,579
hauntings and ghosts a day 365 true

631
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:43,220
tales of the spectral supernatural and

632
00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:46,159
just plain scary tonight is our night

633
00:34:52,149 --> 00:34:48,260
number two of Halloween week and Maureen

634
00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:52,159
is here to share her favorite scariest

635
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:54,020
ghost stories there you go Maureen good

636
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:56,569
evening how are you I'm fantastic how

637
00:35:01,720 --> 00:34:58,490
are you I love the accent already

638
00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:01,730
Maureen this is the deal you get the

639
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:04,460
first-time guests disclaimer so we got

640
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:06,079
to do that first before we can continue

641
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:08,089
but you're a psychic so you already knew

642
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,640
this was coming right yeah okay okay

643
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:13,040
which is it Maureen it's just you and I

644
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:14,930
sitting on my couch having a

645
00:35:18,609 --> 00:35:16,970
conversation wherever the conversation

646
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:18,619
starts it starts wherever it ends it

647
00:35:27,309 --> 00:35:20,890
ends but we're going to end as friends

648
00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:27,319
all right now the the easy question is

649
00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:30,200
this I want to start here you're a

650
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:33,500
psychic medium right so you're making

651
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:36,049
these connections and you've been doing

652
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:36,810
it for

653
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:38,820
nearly your whole life as far as back as

654
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:41,730
you can remember what was the first time

655
00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:44,220
that you you figured out that you had

656
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:47,160
some kind of talent like this well you

657
00:35:51,830 --> 00:35:49,170
know good question because you know when

658
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:51,840
you're when you're very young and you're

659
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:53,910
seeing spirits and they're sitting on

660
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:55,410
your bed and they're you know you're

661
00:36:00,350 --> 00:35:58,410
seeing them all the time you don't think

662
00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:00,360
that there's anything unusual you think

663
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:02,310
everybody is seeing them and to be

664
00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:04,380
honest I think that to some extent a lot

665
00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:06,150
of people can when they're young and

666
00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:07,380
they're children you see you know

667
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:09,750
imaginary friends and you know this one

668
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:11,970
says oh you know the you know are you

669
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:14,100
seeing someone and what you want to do

670
00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:16,140
is ask them if you know can you point

671
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:17,580
out a picture you know if you see a

672
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:19,290
child saying they're seeing an imaginary

673
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:22,380
friend so I mean for me it was pretty

674
00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:25,730
normal until I realized when I was about

675
00:36:32,570 --> 00:36:29,750
12 or 13 and I would be talking to

676
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:32,580
friends and they just sat there staring

677
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:35,430
at me like that you know it was not

678
00:36:41,090 --> 00:36:38,760
normal and I ended up spending my time

679
00:36:44,090 --> 00:36:41,100
for a lot of it I live across from the

680
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:44,100
cemetery growing up and live in a home

681
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:48,450
that's about 1896 when it was built and

682
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,370
so let's just say my house was very

683
00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:52,800
active so for me it was just you know

684
00:37:00,080 --> 00:36:56,940
everyday the the first time that it

685
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,090
happens do you and especially when

686
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,640
you're young do you have the ability to

687
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:05,040
question things and maybe think that

688
00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:06,720
you're nuts right that you maybe you're

689
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,060
a little crazy and this is imagination

690
00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:12,240
are you able to you know apply some

691
00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:14,700
discernment or was it just too real and

692
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:16,820
you knew that something was going on

693
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,680
yeah I think it was for that time it was

694
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:22,320
it was too real and I recall coming down

695
00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:24,090
you know like I had a bedroom upstairs

696
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,030
and I would come downstairs and you know

697
00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:29,040
tell my mother every morning and you

698
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:30,390
know my father would sit there and look

699
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:31,800
at me and think I'm like God what is

700
00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,470
wrong with her and now my mother you

701
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:36,540
know she hadn't told me anything other

702
00:37:42,110 --> 00:37:38,760
than your normal it's okay and here's

703
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:42,120
some holy water and if I found out many

704
00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:45,240
years later that you know she would tell

705
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:47,460
me she had abilities herself but she'd

706
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:48,810
turn up the radio she didn't want to

707
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:50,230
hear the spirits and

708
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:52,090
you know her mother died when she was

709
00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:53,830
very young and she was raised by your

710
00:37:58,650 --> 00:37:55,960
grandmother but back through the family

711
00:38:00,090 --> 00:37:58,660
generations they would heal the you know

712
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:00,100
people in the town they would heal them

713
00:38:04,410 --> 00:38:02,530
they would stop them from bleeding they

714
00:38:06,359 --> 00:38:04,420
would you know people would come to them

715
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:06,369
for readings constantly so my mother was

716
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:09,310
well versed in understanding what was

717
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:11,350
going on but my poor father well he

718
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:16,210
wasn't and did you start to it's one

719
00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:17,410
thing to hear things

720
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:20,980
did you see things too as well yes I did

721
00:38:27,420 --> 00:38:25,780
and you know as I got older I want to

722
00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:27,430
say that there was a time when I was in

723
00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:31,270
my teens around 13 14 years old when it

724
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:33,580
really you know the house got extremely

725
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:35,950
active especially when you know I was by

726
00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:39,310
myself in the house and I would I would

727
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:41,020
see things where you know a plate would

728
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:43,030
come out of the cabinet and would break

729
00:38:48,090 --> 00:38:45,369
let's say on the countertop and it would

730
00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:48,100
just be bouncing up and down for it felt

731
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:49,840
like forever or like it seemed time just

732
00:38:53,370 --> 00:38:51,460
slowed down and I put my hand there and

733
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:53,380
it would be pieces popping off the

734
00:38:58,500 --> 00:38:55,930
countertop on top of my hand and

735
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,510
gas-jets would turn on and the bed would

736
00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:01,359
vibrate and slide across the room I

737
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:05,260
actually had a time where we used to

738
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:07,180
have those insulated curtains behind the

739
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:09,220
bed to keep you know the cold from

740
00:39:13,770 --> 00:39:11,380
coming through the windows and the bed

741
00:39:16,050 --> 00:39:13,780
would vibrate away from the wall and the

742
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:16,060
curtains came out around it and we're

743
00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:18,550
literally strangling me no no no there

744
00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:24,070
yes now Maureen is this is this you

745
00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:27,340
causing it in other words if you were

746
00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:30,750
not there would this still have happened

747
00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:34,180
yeah you know I can't I can't say that

748
00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:36,790
for sure I know that I would tell my

749
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:39,700
sisters and let them know what was going

750
00:39:44,099 --> 00:39:41,470
on and they too would look at me like

751
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:44,109
what is you know what is she on and I

752
00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:46,570
was I was very young and you know I

753
00:39:52,650 --> 00:39:48,580
don't believe I was causing I might have

754
00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:52,660
because it became very active it was

755
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:54,190
home to me it's like turning on a light

756
00:39:59,609 --> 00:39:55,990
and if a spirit is trying to communicate

757
00:40:02,190 --> 00:39:59,619
I would just start getting a rampage of

758
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:02,200
a lot of spirits that was showing up did

759
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:03,510
you

760
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:08,010
almost strangled by the curtains right I

761
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:13,440
mean what it seemed to happen every

762
00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:15,570
night between the you know you hear at

763
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:16,980
3:00 in the morning right so between

764
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:20,430
2:00 3:00 in the morning was the the

765
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:23,070
worst and that got to be when I was a

766
00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:25,260
little bit older and I think it was

767
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:27,180
almost as if I tried to ignore like I

768
00:40:30,290 --> 00:40:28,770
was going through a stage where I kept

769
00:40:33,650 --> 00:40:30,300
saying there's something wrong with me

770
00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:33,660
I'm ignoring you you're not there and

771
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:36,060
when I did that that's when things kind

772
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:38,210
of get out of control

773
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:43,500
now what I find interesting is that your

774
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:48,690
partner Ron he's he's a ghost hunter but

775
00:40:56,450 --> 00:40:51,359
he's on the skeptical side of the fence

776
00:40:59,060 --> 00:40:56,460
so before we get started here I want you

777
00:41:02,180 --> 00:40:59,070
to tell us about Ron first off a second

778
00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:02,190
tell me the first time he had the crap

779
00:41:07,790 --> 00:41:04,470
scared out of them you know mr. skeptic

780
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:07,800
right that's the perfect that's the

781
00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:11,369
perfect person did to be a victim right

782
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:13,590
but I have to say you know he hides it

783
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:16,980
very well so if you if you asked him if

784
00:41:23,330 --> 00:41:20,930
he ever had the crap scared out of him I

785
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:23,340
would say that you know he holds it

786
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:24,270
together pretty well

787
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:27,390
he pretty much you know he doesn't look

788
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:29,550
like he's afraid and I think if you ask

789
00:41:33,859 --> 00:41:31,650
them we do have one case we worked on

790
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:33,869
and it's in our first book goes

791
00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:36,210
chronicles that we talked about it but

792
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:37,830
it was more the living that we were

793
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,240
afraid of because going to an

794
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:41,040
investigation than it is worrying about

795
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:44,850
the dead and what is it about that that

796
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,180
that's a really good point it's a scary

797
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,640
thing right and it doesn't matter if

798
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:53,040
you're watching a ghost hunter

799
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:55,800
paranormal TV show you know we watch it

800
00:42:03,349 --> 00:41:57,900
to get scared we don't watch it to go

801
00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:03,359
into happy land right this is but Kent

802
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:06,060
can we get hurt what what why are we so

803
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:08,150
scared and why do we enjoy it so much

804
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:11,369
yeah well you know everybody is

805
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:14,820
different but I will say that this you

806
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:15,930
know do you want me to give you the one

807
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:17,250
instance that happened

808
00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:21,990
yes I do okay you know Ron would call me

809
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,820
all the time and say hey we're gonna go

810
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:25,500
on this investigation but he would never

811
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:27,690
tell me where he would just say can you

812
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:29,640
go it'll take a couple hours we either

813
00:42:33,830 --> 00:42:32,190
going dress warm or we're going you know

814
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:33,840
we're going outside we're going to

815
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:35,850
someone's home but he never gave me the

816
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:38,430
specifics because you know he just to

817
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:39,930
keep me honest right he didn't want me

818
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:41,810
going on Google and researching the

819
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:44,310
property to find out what had happened

820
00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:47,040
there and so forth so this one day he

821
00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:49,350
calls me and says hey you know Maureen

822
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:51,150
it's 10:00 in the morning now I'm

823
00:42:55,610 --> 00:42:52,980
thinking oh come on what can happen at

824
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:55,620
10 in the morning right so he said come

825
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,540
on I got this investigation that I

826
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,760
really need to do for the this guy and

827
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:01,920
he needs help you know something's going

828
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:04,530
on so he needs help okay so we it's

829
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:06,810
about three towns away you know I get in

830
00:43:10,850 --> 00:43:08,220
the car with Ron he comes and picks me

831
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,860
up you know would she chatting we get to

832
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:13,520
this house and it's this little ranch in

833
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:16,800
this town in Massachusetts and we get

834
00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:18,810
into the house and I have Italia Jimmy

835
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,420
this place look like a tornado went

836
00:43:25,850 --> 00:43:23,760
through it the everything was smashed

837
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:25,860
the glass he had you know like a

838
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:28,140
fireplace glass in front he had his

839
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:30,870
glass coffee table the mirrors in his

840
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:34,560
bathroom just about every cup and dish

841
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:36,810
and glass that was out on his counter

842
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:39,060
everything was shattered the floor was a

843
00:43:44,030 --> 00:43:40,650
hardwood floor and it was covered with

844
00:43:46,220 --> 00:43:44,040
just debris you know glass everywhere

845
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:46,230
and then he said you know his phone had

846
00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:49,560
been taken and broken his his friend was

847
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:51,390
there with him and his friend was using

848
00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:53,880
their phone together and you know my

849
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:55,950
wallet was stolen it went missing and

850
00:44:00,500 --> 00:43:57,930
you know so he was really upset and he

851
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:00,510
said you know I need to find out what

852
00:44:05,450 --> 00:44:03,450
this you know spirit wants and he was

853
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:05,460
adamant that it was a spirit of a little

854
00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:08,490
girl and he was living a Maureen let me

855
00:44:14,020 --> 00:44:10,920
jump in he was living he was living in

856
00:44:17,330 --> 00:44:14,030
in all of this debris and broken glass

857
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:17,340
yeah I think what happened is it really

858
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:18,990
escalated you know I think it had

859
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:21,870
happened and then it like the last day

860
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:23,610
or two before you know he wanted to

861
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:24,900
leave it that way to show us what

862
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:28,050
happened oh yeah so he kind of he that's

863
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:30,510
why it was important for Ron to say hey

864
00:44:32,809 --> 00:44:30,930
we have

865
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:32,819
to go today he said you need to get

866
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,700
there so you know where I agreed to go

867
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:38,160
so I don't know I pulled out my pendulum

868
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,660
when we got in this house now do you are

869
00:44:44,540 --> 00:44:41,280
you familiar with dowsing oh yes

870
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:44,550
absolutely okay so I used the pendulum

871
00:44:49,549 --> 00:44:47,190
and I was dowsing Wells communicating

872
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:49,559
with the spirit and you know I could

873
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:52,800
feel this really angst like an anger of

874
00:44:57,170 --> 00:44:55,170
this and I felt like a man was there you

875
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,180
know and he was there to kind of it felt

876
00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:00,000
like revenge to me and you know this

877
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:03,630
gentleman I say nice try to be nice in

878
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:05,849
the house he kept was adamant you know

879
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:08,280
this was a little girl I don't know why

880
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:10,410
she's so upset at me why she's breaking

881
00:45:14,359 --> 00:45:12,450
things and I'm thinking why would you

882
00:45:16,849 --> 00:45:14,369
think it's a little girl so other than

883
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:16,859
you know the fact that I don't know so

884
00:45:20,420 --> 00:45:18,450
the spirit might have been trying to get

885
00:45:23,420 --> 00:45:20,430
him to believe it was a little girl but

886
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,430
it just really wasn't so you know we

887
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:25,440
spent a good hour there we walked around

888
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:27,480
you know I kept trying to talk to him

889
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,130
but he was just fixated you know this

890
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:31,680
had to be a little girl so he's okay so

891
00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:33,990
I said well you know I'm sorry we if we

892
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,670
can't help you he was getting very upset

893
00:45:41,089 --> 00:45:38,400
with us so we walked outside of the

894
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:41,099
house and it got a real really bizarre

895
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:43,410
from that point so this guy moose which

896
00:45:49,730 --> 00:45:47,730
is this really tall big guy pulls Ron

897
00:45:51,380 --> 00:45:49,740
aside up near the front of the house and

898
00:45:53,329 --> 00:45:51,390
he takes his phone out he goes look at

899
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:53,339
my phone is ringing now this is before

900
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:55,530
you could actually make cell phone show

901
00:46:00,289 --> 00:45:57,930
up with you know zeros let's say from a

902
00:46:01,849 --> 00:46:00,299
phone number and the phone is ringing

903
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:01,859
and you're looking down and there's

904
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:04,890
nothing but zeros on the phone and I

905
00:46:10,789 --> 00:46:07,770
thought well okay that is odd and then

906
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:10,799
the owner of the home grabs me by my my

907
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:13,170
arm and he walks me down to the end of

908
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,510
the driveway and he's giving the I to

909
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:17,760
the guy in the Iran like keep him up

910
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,980
there and I thought what is going on and

911
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:21,839
he starts telling me I want you to come

912
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,020
here back here tonight by yourself I am

913
00:46:29,770 --> 00:46:27,119
you have to come back here because I

914
00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:29,780
think she doesn't like Ron and I said oh

915
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:32,040
yeah I don't think that's a great idea

916
00:46:36,799 --> 00:46:34,770
and he started you know really getting

917
00:46:38,660 --> 00:46:36,809
at him and angry and he said I don't

918
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,670
know why you people don't think that

919
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:41,040
it's a little girl you know in fact I

920
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,930
know it has to be so after about a

921
00:46:48,019 --> 00:46:44,880
moment he turned to me and he said well

922
00:46:52,460 --> 00:46:48,029
no I just was released from prison for

923
00:46:58,430 --> 00:46:54,890
I'm standing there in the window he

924
00:47:00,170 --> 00:46:58,440
wants you to come back alone exactly I'm

925
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:00,180
just staring up at the end of the

926
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:02,730
driveway and I'm thinking I am going to

927
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,440
kill Ron right because you know I'm like

928
00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,599
oh my god he's gotten me into this again

929
00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:11,579
you know there's there's something

930
00:47:16,009 --> 00:47:13,859
getting in this into this situation that

931
00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:16,019
now I'm thinking great now I have to

932
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:18,630
worry about that so I told them oh yeah

933
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:20,579
yeah well you know maybe we'll get in

934
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:22,950
touch I'll talk to Ron and see and we

935
00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:24,690
got out of there by the skin of our

936
00:47:27,230 --> 00:47:24,990
teeth

937
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:27,240
and as we're driving away Ryan's are

938
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:28,470
gonna make it you're not going back

939
00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:29,730
there right you didn't give me a phone

940
00:47:33,259 --> 00:47:31,859
number I'm like no I did not give him my

941
00:47:35,089 --> 00:47:33,269
phone number and I can't believe that

942
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:35,099
you didn't even you know vet this guy

943
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,990
out like what you just what you just

944
00:47:41,779 --> 00:47:39,119
went here and so you know it was a

945
00:47:43,759 --> 00:47:41,789
little terrifying and honestly I don't

946
00:47:47,420 --> 00:47:43,769
know exactly what happened to him after

947
00:47:49,279 --> 00:47:47,430
that I wasn't eager to contact him and I

948
00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:49,289
tried to say that if you had to contact

949
00:47:53,539 --> 00:47:51,960
please contact Ron that I couldn't be

950
00:47:55,579 --> 00:47:53,549
reached so it was a little it was a

951
00:47:58,190 --> 00:47:55,589
little hairy I thought my god like you

952
00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:58,200
just don't know when you're doing these

953
00:48:01,849 --> 00:47:59,819
investigations you get you're putting a

954
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:01,859
lot of trust and going out to these

955
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:04,880
locations or residences and honestly

956
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:06,900
you're out you're putting yourself at

957
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:09,480
the mercy to what you show up for did

958
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:16,740
you go back you gotta go visit the

959
00:48:22,789 --> 00:48:20,160
serial killer ghost house yeah you know

960
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:22,799
what we didn't go back because I want to

961
00:48:26,509 --> 00:48:25,049
say that someone else had he reached out

962
00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:26,519
to someone else to try to get assistance

963
00:48:31,460 --> 00:48:28,980
and I was very I was happy with that

964
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:31,470
because you know I honestly wanted the

965
00:48:36,589 --> 00:48:34,319
spirit to get more help than him and I'm

966
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:36,599
trying not to be judgmental but you know

967
00:48:41,749 --> 00:48:39,960
let's just say that I don't understand

968
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:41,759
why he thought it was a little girl but

969
00:48:46,789 --> 00:48:44,930
you know I guess you know denial is a

970
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:46,799
good thing sometimes

971
00:48:52,249 --> 00:48:48,660
yeah right right how did you meet Ron

972
00:48:55,509 --> 00:48:52,259
how did you guys get together well I've

973
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,519
been working with Ron for about 17 years

974
00:48:58,700 --> 00:48:58,079
actually Ron started the New England

975
00:49:01,339 --> 00:48:58,710
ghost

976
00:49:04,910 --> 00:49:01,349
project about three years before we get

977
00:49:08,359 --> 00:49:04,920
together so about 20 years ago and you

978
00:49:10,940 --> 00:49:08,369
know for me I had been you know doing a

979
00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:10,950
working rather in the metaphysical for

980
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:14,550
many years and I was a I think I was

981
00:49:19,370 --> 00:49:17,369
about 15 years old as you said I was

982
00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:19,380
introduced to someone who helped me to

983
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,270
harness my gifts and learn about energy

984
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:25,200
and so forth and I was a medium for

985
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:26,880
adults a once's for about three years

986
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:30,450
straight so years go by I have a family

987
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:33,390
and kids and I just kept working and

988
00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:34,859
reading for people and I thought you

989
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:37,500
know there's got to be more right I if

990
00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:40,140
I'm supposed to be doing this then you

991
00:49:44,359 --> 00:49:42,420
know I need to kind of put myself out

992
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:44,369
there and if it's meant to be I'm gonna

993
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:46,230
hook up with someone and I'll be working

994
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:48,570
with the team and the interesting part

995
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:51,089
is about after doing having that little

996
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:54,630
conversation I think with myself you

997
00:49:59,150 --> 00:49:56,970
know I ended up going to a location a

998
00:50:00,560 --> 00:49:59,160
store I hadn't been to and like years

999
00:50:02,180 --> 00:50:00,570
and I walked in and the gentleman

1000
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,190
recognized me and he said you know

1001
00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:03,839
Maureen I haven't seen you in so long

1002
00:50:08,329 --> 00:50:06,420
and this is odd but I have one newspaper

1003
00:50:10,849 --> 00:50:08,339
like they would get newspapers and hand

1004
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:10,859
them out to their customers and he said

1005
00:50:13,579 --> 00:50:12,089
it's really odd I have this one

1006
00:50:15,710 --> 00:50:13,589
newspaper here and for some reason I

1007
00:50:17,329 --> 00:50:15,720
think you need to have it and you know

1008
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:17,339
my husband's with me is like okay that's

1009
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:18,780
a little weird but you know whatever

1010
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:20,730
he's like you were very polite about it

1011
00:50:25,609 --> 00:50:22,680
so I took the newspaper in the car and I

1012
00:50:27,620 --> 00:50:25,619
started paging through it and at the end

1013
00:50:29,660 --> 00:50:27,630
of the like the last page there was an

1014
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:29,670
article in there that was written by Ron

1015
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:32,460
in the New England Ghost project and I

1016
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,530
emailed him and evidently something I

1017
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:36,180
had written in the email caught his

1018
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:38,970
attention he called me you know we got

1019
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:40,500
to dinner went out to dinner he

1020
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:42,210
interviewed me all mostly we had me go

1021
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:44,730
to a haunted restaurant and I guess I

1022
00:50:50,780 --> 00:50:47,010
passed the test because within a week I

1023
00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:50,790
was actually going out to do you know

1024
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:53,099
investigate let's say this Windham

1025
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:54,720
restaurant which is in f-4s Burke as

1026
00:50:59,359 --> 00:50:56,730
well and that was the first of a

1027
00:51:03,880 --> 00:50:59,369
four-part series for Halloween how do

1028
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:03,890
you how do you know when you arrive

1029
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:06,839
somewhere that and this is kind of a

1030
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:09,660
two-fold question that it is actually

1031
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,550
you know haunted or there's something

1032
00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:13,920
going on are you communicated with

1033
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:18,920
directly and when you're watching the

1034
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:23,130
ghost hunting type of show can you tell

1035
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:25,830
when something's not quite right that

1036
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:29,210
maybe there's some deception going on

1037
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:32,160
well as far as for the first part of the

1038
00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:34,740
question when I go out on the site it

1039
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:36,630
depends where we go I mean there are

1040
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:39,450
times we go out and it doesn't feel you

1041
00:51:44,180 --> 00:51:41,730
know may not feel very active doesn't

1042
00:51:46,550 --> 00:51:44,190
feel like a lot is going on but when I'm

1043
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,560
walking into a site that a spirit is

1044
00:51:51,140 --> 00:51:48,720
very eager to communicate or I can feel

1045
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,150
there's an energy there it's my own

1046
00:51:56,359 --> 00:51:54,480
telltale signs are I feel like my third

1047
00:51:58,609 --> 00:51:56,369
eye you know my forehead starts tingling

1048
00:52:00,440 --> 00:51:58,619
excuse me I stopped feeling that the

1049
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:00,450
energy building and the closer that

1050
00:52:05,660 --> 00:52:02,760
spirit comes and the stronger they get

1051
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:05,670
I've had times where it feels literally

1052
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:07,650
like I'm plugged into a wall socket and

1053
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:11,010
I'm just power like I feel the my whole

1054
00:52:16,339 --> 00:52:13,170
body just feels like it's on fire with

1055
00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:16,349
energy and that has been something that

1056
00:52:21,770 --> 00:52:19,859
you know has really I've noticed over

1057
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:21,780
and over and over again and so much so

1058
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,849
that I'll turn to somebody and I I'm

1059
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:25,680
almost done founded sometimes because

1060
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:28,050
I'll look to see if anyone else is

1061
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:30,930
feeling what I'm feeling because you

1062
00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:32,460
know there's comfort in knowing that

1063
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:34,760
you're not by yourself I guess

1064
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:37,500
Manny's father as well and as far as

1065
00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:39,930
your second part of the question I only

1066
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:42,119
seen a couple shows I know I'm awful but

1067
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:45,150
I try to not watch all the ghost shows

1068
00:52:50,329 --> 00:52:48,300
because I do it it's like watching what

1069
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:50,339
you do all the time

1070
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:52,410
and I figure if I watch it then even

1071
00:52:57,290 --> 00:52:54,930
subconsciously I could actually kind of

1072
00:52:58,849 --> 00:52:57,300
mimic what they're doing and I just

1073
00:53:01,070 --> 00:52:58,859
don't want to put it myself in that

1074
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:01,080
space yeah fair enough fair enough yeah

1075
00:53:08,180 --> 00:53:03,570
you know I I don't think surgeons watch

1076
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:08,190
films of you know surgeons are watching

1077
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:14,480
Chicago Hope then again you never know

1078
00:53:21,620 --> 00:53:18,830
now we're gonna set things up

1079
00:53:26,570 --> 00:53:21,630
for when we come back after the break

1080
00:53:28,190 --> 00:53:26,580
and when somebody says to you and I know

1081
00:53:31,370 --> 00:53:28,200
you get this all the time what's your

1082
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:31,380
scariest story what's the scariest thing

1083
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:36,240
is there one that comes to mind or are

1084
00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:40,200
they all scary well I try not to be

1085
00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:43,080
scared but I don't always succeed but

1086
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:45,720
there is there are a couple that come to

1087
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:48,930
my mind that are that are terrifying

1088
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:52,650
actually and where what's the what's the

1089
00:54:00,410 --> 00:53:55,980
scariest city what's the most haunted

1090
00:54:03,830 --> 00:54:00,420
city and is there one one place that you

1091
00:54:06,740 --> 00:54:03,840
consider the most haunted well in our

1092
00:54:09,260 --> 00:54:06,750
book Morgause chronicles we did write

1093
00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:09,270
about the daniel lady farm which is in

1094
00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:13,560
Gettysburg Pennsylvania and that I would

1095
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:17,220
say you know I first time I ever went to

1096
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:19,740
Gettysburg put it this way I was 50

1097
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:23,690
miles outside of you know Gettysburg and

1098
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:27,540
actually was starting to feel ill and I

1099
00:54:32,090 --> 00:54:29,640
thought I ate something bad because I

1100
00:54:35,090 --> 00:54:32,100
had never experienced feeling that so

1101
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:35,100
far away from a location but obviously

1102
00:54:39,170 --> 00:54:36,540
with the amount of deaths that took

1103
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:39,180
place during the Civil War its kind of

1104
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:42,510
expected but so much energy and

1105
00:54:48,590 --> 00:54:46,290
intensity and tragedy that went on that

1106
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:48,600
that I you know there's many places that

1107
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:51,690
are haunted and you know the the spirits

1108
00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:53,730
are around but I would say that that is

1109
00:54:59,210 --> 00:54:56,820
as one of the most haunted locations I

1110
00:55:01,490 --> 00:54:59,220
just held it up to the camera to show

1111
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:01,500
everybody I actually had that bookmarked

1112
00:55:12,170 --> 00:55:09,570
oh my god so when we come back let's

1113
00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:12,180
actually start there that that you are

1114
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:14,760
psychic I gotta say I had a bookmarked

1115
00:55:24,020 --> 00:55:19,910
and so let's let's start there I I have

1116
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:24,030
only one ghost story myself I've told

1117
00:55:29,710 --> 00:55:25,730
him many times on the air I'm not gonna

1118
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:29,720
do that tonight but I only have why

1119
00:55:40,330 --> 00:55:33,200
but when it happened at the time I

1120
00:55:42,849 --> 00:55:40,340
thought it was just a person and then we

1121
00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:42,859
found out a few minutes later that the

1122
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:45,230
house was empty and I was looking at it

1123
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:46,160
anyway

1124
00:55:53,950 --> 00:55:50,450
the moment that I found out that what I

1125
00:55:57,010 --> 00:55:53,960
saw was probably a ghost I freaked

1126
00:56:00,040 --> 00:55:57,020
I was like well because before that I

1127
00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:00,050
thought I saw a person right okay so

1128
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,660
it's no harm no foul in fact I thought

1129
00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:05,440
it was a burglar or something but then

1130
00:56:11,170 --> 00:56:09,500
and then the next day when I found out

1131
00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:11,180
that somebody had tried to commit

1132
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,460
suicide or did commit suicide and this

1133
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:15,680
other thing from the landlord that's

1134
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:19,330
where I really got freaked out I I don't

1135
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:22,250
I don't remember ever being comfortable

1136
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:24,770
around there again but anyway I only

1137
00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:28,010
have that one story you are gonna share

1138
00:56:33,099 --> 00:56:29,990
a bunch with us tonight I wish you could

1139
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:33,109
see my studio here the bunker I've got

1140
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:35,450
all the lights down everybody can see on

1141
00:56:40,660 --> 00:56:37,970
the camera that I'm here in the dark

1142
00:56:43,089 --> 00:56:40,670
I've got one little one little light on

1143
00:56:44,530 --> 00:56:43,099
my face for the camera here but I'm in

1144
00:56:46,690 --> 00:56:44,540
the dark and I'm ready for this let's

1145
00:56:48,670 --> 00:56:46,700
take a break and let's come back and

1146
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:48,680
kick off this night I'm really looking

1147
00:56:53,890 --> 00:56:51,170
forward to this Maureen and night number

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00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:53,900
two of Halloween week here on fade to

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00:56:58,900 --> 00:56:55,310
black and when we come back it will be

1150
00:57:01,730 --> 00:56:58,910
the Daniell lady farm the book is more

1151
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:01,740
ghost chronicles we're also

1152
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:05,040
good to go back to book one as well this

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00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:06,770
is fade to black I'm murals to be Church

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on the game changer Network and K G RA

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the planet it's Halloween

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[Applause]

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01:02:01,329 --> 01:01:59,589
all right welcome back night two of our

1250
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:01,339
Halloween week our guest tonight Maureen

1251
01:02:05,339 --> 01:02:03,529
wood she's one half of the team

1252
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:05,349
the ghost hunting team with Ron Koehler

1253
01:02:13,630 --> 01:02:09,730
their new book is more ghost chronicles

1254
01:02:17,739 --> 01:02:13,640
and we're going to tell some scary ghost

1255
01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:17,749
stories and the first one is marine I'm

1256
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:19,220
actually gonna hand it off to you but

1257
01:02:23,259 --> 01:02:21,200
it's the Daniell lady farm and

1258
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:23,269
interesting that I would have this

1259
01:02:27,849 --> 01:02:26,240
bookmarked and and open it up as you

1260
01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:27,859
said it and it was kind of funny because

1261
01:02:32,410 --> 01:02:29,630
the audience actually got to see that in

1262
01:02:35,620 --> 01:02:32,420
real time on the cameras here but what

1263
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:35,630
happens yeah very cool

1264
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:38,569
so you know as far as Gettysburg I'm

1265
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:40,609
sure many people are well-versed with

1266
01:02:46,749 --> 01:02:42,650
the tragedies right with all the loss of

1267
01:02:48,430 --> 01:02:46,759
life that happened in July of 1863 that

1268
01:02:51,849 --> 01:02:48,440
there was just so many souls that were

1269
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:51,859
lost so if you you know just as many of

1270
01:02:57,370 --> 01:02:54,890
the the homes or restaurants and my own

1271
01:02:59,620 --> 01:02:57,380
restaurants but back then the farms or

1272
01:03:02,289 --> 01:02:59,630
locations they were actually used to

1273
01:03:04,509 --> 01:03:02,299
house you know soldiers right they were

1274
01:03:06,999 --> 01:03:04,519
injured or they would set it up as a

1275
01:03:09,249 --> 01:03:07,009
base camp that they would use for

1276
01:03:10,930 --> 01:03:09,259
certain battles or they would have it as

1277
01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:10,940
a you know a hospital that would take

1278
01:03:16,359 --> 01:03:13,430
place and this is the case for the

1279
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:16,369
Daniel lady farm so when you go out to

1280
01:03:21,309 --> 01:03:18,410
this property they have this you know

1281
01:03:24,370 --> 01:03:21,319
this large brick house and then off to

1282
01:03:26,019 --> 01:03:24,380
the side you'll have a very large barn

1283
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:26,029
and when you go into the barn it's a

1284
01:03:31,329 --> 01:03:28,880
dirt floor and you know all the soldiers

1285
01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:31,339
that a lot of them that were there were

1286
01:03:37,390 --> 01:03:33,319
held there after they had their

1287
01:03:39,460 --> 01:03:37,400
surgeries or amputations and they had

1288
01:03:42,609 --> 01:03:39,470
signed the names and inscribed them in

1289
01:03:45,370 --> 01:03:42,619
the wood you know whatever Calvary are

1290
01:03:47,739 --> 01:03:45,380
that they were had been in and so we

1291
01:03:51,339 --> 01:03:47,749
went out there to do this investigation

1292
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:51,349
with Mack Nesbitt who is a you know a

1293
01:03:56,140 --> 01:03:53,690
historian out there for researching

1294
01:03:59,499 --> 01:03:56,150
during in Gettysburg and he does many

1295
01:04:01,509 --> 01:03:59,509
tours to these locations so in this one

1296
01:04:04,779 --> 01:04:01,519
building I have to tell you if you've

1297
01:04:06,130 --> 01:04:04,789
never have been out to Gettysburg or if

1298
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:06,140
you haven't been you know if you've

1299
01:04:10,220 --> 01:04:08,690
heard of this location you walk into

1300
01:04:12,620 --> 01:04:10,230
this building and

1301
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:12,630
the hardwood floors are still soaked

1302
01:04:18,349 --> 01:04:15,900
with blood and you see you know where

1303
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,359
there's handprints that are this blood

1304
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:20,160
surrounding these handprints that are on

1305
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:22,470
the floor because a lot of these

1306
01:04:28,099 --> 01:04:25,290
soldiers had sat in there waiting for

1307
01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:28,109
the next the next be the next person to

1308
01:04:33,260 --> 01:04:30,839
have the surgery let's say and at that

1309
01:04:35,410 --> 01:04:33,270
time because of the you know the musket

1310
01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:35,420
balls and so forth that was used during

1311
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:38,670
that time period when it would hit an

1312
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:41,250
arm or leg it would shatter the bone and

1313
01:04:45,050 --> 01:04:42,930
there was no saving it right so they

1314
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:45,060
would have to amputate you know whatever

1315
01:04:52,310 --> 01:04:49,020
limb was injured from the musket ball

1316
01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:52,320
and basically you know they have you

1317
01:04:56,210 --> 01:04:53,940
know they would open the windows around

1318
01:04:58,910 --> 01:04:56,220
the Daniell lady farm and they would

1319
01:05:02,060 --> 01:04:58,920
have arms and legs would be piling up

1320
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:02,070
outside the windows mm-hmm so it's it's

1321
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:05,010
really horrific and they would in fact

1322
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:07,770
on that property there's actually graves

1323
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:11,130
of the body parts that were left left

1324
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:14,220
behind so a lot of things that had

1325
01:05:18,050 --> 01:05:16,650
happened in there one of them was I'm

1326
01:05:20,089 --> 01:05:18,060
not familiar I don't know if you're

1327
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:20,099
familiar Jimi and I don't say this to

1328
01:05:26,690 --> 01:05:23,130
say Oh me but when I'm out and I'm

1329
01:05:28,790 --> 01:05:26,700
investigating it kind of transitioned to

1330
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:28,800
more than just mediumship at the time

1331
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:31,890
it's trance channeling the spirit that

1332
01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:33,450
has come through and I don't know if

1333
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:36,119
you're familiar with what that means but

1334
01:05:44,859 --> 01:05:41,280
it sounds like a lot of residual things

1335
01:05:48,260 --> 01:05:44,869
are happening to as well a lot of

1336
01:05:52,099 --> 01:05:48,270
unresolved situations that are that are

1337
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:52,109
that are there that that haven't haven't

1338
01:05:56,809 --> 01:05:55,140
gone back and get fixed yeah absolutely

1339
01:05:58,700 --> 01:05:56,819
I mean for me

1340
01:06:01,700 --> 01:05:58,710
what happens if spirit is trying to

1341
01:06:04,010 --> 01:06:01,710
communicate and I'll often try to

1342
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:04,020
communicate back I'll open up a little

1343
01:06:09,050 --> 01:06:05,970
bit right and the spirit will come

1344
01:06:10,790 --> 01:06:09,060
through and so if I've got to be careful

1345
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:10,800
what I ask them because if I ask them

1346
01:06:14,930 --> 01:06:11,609
how they died

1347
01:06:17,089 --> 01:06:14,940
they'll you know happily show me and

1348
01:06:19,069 --> 01:06:17,099
being empathic and feeling their energy

1349
01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:19,079
illnesses if I'm reliving the last

1350
01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:22,230
moments of their life is is pretty

1351
01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:24,190
terrifying for me and a lot of times

1352
01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:26,470
thankfully I work with Ron and the team

1353
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,020
because he now understands that if

1354
01:06:32,819 --> 01:06:31,359
that's taking place and I need

1355
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:32,829
assistance he's there to kind of help

1356
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:35,440
bring me back if need be and I don't

1357
01:06:39,809 --> 01:06:37,359
always excuse me recall what has

1358
01:06:42,329 --> 01:06:39,819
happened during those moments but I will

1359
01:06:46,770 --> 01:06:42,339
tell you in danly daniel lady farm i

1360
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:46,780
recall feeling that i I was in this room

1361
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:49,119
I was up against this corner of this

1362
01:06:55,859 --> 01:06:52,690
room and I was the anxiety I felt the

1363
01:06:58,109 --> 01:06:55,869
fear the terror and I felt like I was

1364
01:07:01,050 --> 01:06:58,119
trying to stop them from trying to cut

1365
01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:01,060
my arm off and the paint I could feel

1366
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:03,550
his pain of this soldier and it was just

1367
01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:06,609
she and misery for this poor man so that

1368
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:09,160
was tough enough but then you know a

1369
01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:11,410
little while and so up I feel bad but do

1370
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:13,150
when I was channeling it really wasn't a

1371
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:14,770
pretty sight to see evidently and this

1372
01:07:18,359 --> 01:07:16,930
poor me and Mark Nesbit you know let's

1373
01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:18,369
just say he's afraid of me now but

1374
01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:22,980
anyway like a side effect I guess of it

1375
01:07:29,309 --> 01:07:26,920
but he told us this tale that happened

1376
01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:29,319
in this place no mind you it's a it's a

1377
01:07:33,059 --> 01:07:31,180
tourist place right so they'll have

1378
01:07:35,579 --> 01:07:33,069
tourists come out and they will talk

1379
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:35,589
about the location they talk about the

1380
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:37,950
horrors that took place with all those

1381
01:07:43,260 --> 01:07:41,530
soldiers but what happened one night is

1382
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:43,270
there's a caretaker that takes care of

1383
01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:46,690
the property and Mark Nesbit had left

1384
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,910
one night after a tour and he went home

1385
01:07:53,339 --> 01:07:51,520
and the caretaker called him you know

1386
01:07:55,890 --> 01:07:53,349
maybe a few hours later when it was I

1387
01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:55,900
don't know if it was midnight and Mark

1388
01:07:59,250 --> 01:07:57,609
Nesbit you know asked what's the problem

1389
01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:59,260
he said you have to come back here he

1390
01:08:04,050 --> 01:08:01,359
said this floor it looks like it's wet

1391
01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:04,060
with blood and so that you know mark

1392
01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:07,390
went back and being very you know into

1393
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:10,030
research and scientific he we actually

1394
01:08:13,740 --> 01:08:11,770
have a picture of this and unfortunately

1395
01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:13,750
it's not in the book but we thought when

1396
01:08:18,740 --> 01:08:16,719
we do our talks we show this and he put

1397
01:08:21,599 --> 01:08:18,750
a ruler out on the side of it you know

1398
01:08:25,050 --> 01:08:21,609
he measured the length of the liquid

1399
01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:25,060
that was on the floor he took a swab of

1400
01:08:30,599 --> 01:08:27,430
it put it into a plastic bag put it in

1401
01:08:32,669 --> 01:08:30,609
his car and then you know he really took

1402
01:08:34,260 --> 01:08:32,679
down as much information as he could and

1403
01:08:36,090 --> 01:08:34,270
he said you know and then he said okay

1404
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:36,100
well we'll leave it and see what happens

1405
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:37,870
he takes the ruler away and he

1406
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:40,330
talks to the caretaker and tells him

1407
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:42,010
listen I'm gonna go home and I'll come

1408
01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:43,420
back in the morning and we'll revisit

1409
01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:46,120
this so now mark goes out of the you

1410
01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:48,220
know the the home and he drives back to

1411
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:50,740
his house well he gets another phone

1412
01:08:52,890 --> 01:08:51,040
call

1413
01:08:54,270 --> 01:08:52,900
so the caretaker said to him you have to

1414
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:54,280
come back here you're not gonna believe

1415
01:08:58,920 --> 01:08:56,170
this and he said what I'm on my way home

1416
01:09:01,740 --> 01:08:58,930
he's like no you have to come back so he

1417
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:01,750
came back to the Daniell lady farm he

1418
01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:04,510
gets into the house and the blood was

1419
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:05,080
gone

1420
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:08,350
right so what happened was not only was

1421
01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:11,170
the blood gone but if you looked around

1422
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:13,180
where the liquid had been there was like

1423
01:09:16,170 --> 01:09:14,650
a fine dust you know when you have

1424
01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:16,180
hardwood floor and you get a little bit

1425
01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:17,910
dust going on that you didn't clean it

1426
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:21,190
there was again instead of being liquid

1427
01:09:25,410 --> 01:09:23,350
it was completely gone and there was a

1428
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:25,420
fine sheen of dust that was covering

1429
01:09:29,579 --> 01:09:28,150
that area and they couldn't make sense

1430
01:09:31,290 --> 01:09:29,589
of it they thought you know what is

1431
01:09:33,210 --> 01:09:31,300
going on because you know the only thing

1432
01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:33,220
they could think of as possibly almost

1433
01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:35,680
like a time slip no like the past kind

1434
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:37,240
of came up with the present or

1435
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:40,210
intersected and then just disappeared so

1436
01:09:45,570 --> 01:09:42,640
now thinking oh my god I get a sample in

1437
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:45,580
my car is that gone too so we ran out to

1438
01:09:50,460 --> 01:09:47,410
his car and sure enough the sample was

1439
01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:50,470
still there so he sent it to a crime lab

1440
01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:52,540
from you know I had some friends they

1441
01:09:59,880 --> 01:09:54,670
sent it to a crime lab and it came back

1442
01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:59,890
and it was human blood no yeah so I you

1443
01:10:04,380 --> 01:10:02,080
know that farm is extremely you know

1444
01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:04,390
extremely active you know and I would

1445
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:06,340
say if anybody's out in that area and

1446
01:10:11,250 --> 01:10:08,560
decides you know look up mock nesbitt

1447
01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:11,260
look up the Daniel lady farm and make

1448
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:14,680
that one of your stops how how you know

1449
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:17,050
you you know how scary that is just

1450
01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:19,930
listening to that the when you when he

1451
01:10:26,850 --> 01:10:25,000
first saw the blood you said liquid and

1452
01:10:30,420 --> 01:10:26,860
I find that in aret did it look like

1453
01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:30,430
blood to you well I didn't see it MOC

1454
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:33,070
Nesbit was we saw the picture and I

1455
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:37,690
looked it was red but not completely red

1456
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:41,050
there was liquid mixed in you know it

1457
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:44,110
looked as if I I don't know like it

1458
01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:46,330
wasn't a thick thick blood but it was

1459
01:10:51,609 --> 01:10:48,550
bleeding and the floor was covered in

1460
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:51,619
blood like a good two feet of it

1461
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,280
when when you hear something like that I

1462
01:11:00,430 --> 01:10:58,159
like that the time slip think I actually

1463
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:00,440
thought of the same thing I'm a special

1464
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:03,290
Herman he said that it was later it was

1465
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:05,330
just you know dust was covering the area

1466
01:11:10,810 --> 01:11:08,110
and and and it wasn't wet anymore

1467
01:11:13,530 --> 01:11:10,820
there's that part of it

1468
01:11:16,839 --> 01:11:13,540
woody what do you make of that when you

1469
01:11:19,629 --> 01:11:16,849
visit something like that like

1470
01:11:21,970 --> 01:11:19,639
Gettysburg and you see something and you

1471
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:21,980
may think it's a reenactment right but

1472
01:11:29,620 --> 01:11:25,760
you're actually seen ghost or right is

1473
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:29,630
this something that's that's common you

1474
01:11:35,379 --> 01:11:32,000
know I don't know if it's common I would

1475
01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:35,389
say that you know I'm sure that you know

1476
01:11:38,410 --> 01:11:37,310
I've heard tales and I've seen different

1477
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:38,420
you know different events that have

1478
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,170
happened where you know for instance you

1479
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:44,239
might see you know someone talks about a

1480
01:11:47,950 --> 01:11:46,310
certain location at a certain time you

1481
01:11:50,379 --> 01:11:47,960
know they'll see like a troop of

1482
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:50,389
soldiers walking down this street for

1483
01:11:56,169 --> 01:11:53,570
instance and it may happen you know

1484
01:11:57,820 --> 01:11:56,179
again those are more like a replay you

1485
01:12:00,640 --> 01:11:57,830
know like you're watching a video that

1486
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:00,650
is taking place but again do we know

1487
01:12:04,089 --> 01:12:02,210
that for sure how do we know it's not

1488
01:12:07,060 --> 01:12:04,099
like a timeline you know like it's

1489
01:12:09,850 --> 01:12:07,070
almost like the past coming coming

1490
01:12:12,430 --> 01:12:09,860
together with the present so is that a

1491
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:12,440
rewind is that like a video that's

1492
01:12:18,189 --> 01:12:15,110
replaying on a certain time or is that

1493
01:12:20,260 --> 01:12:18,199
something that time is crossing Gigi

1494
01:12:23,379 --> 01:12:20,270
rabbit just uh posted this up in Twitter

1495
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:23,389
and says have you heard of the Spaghetti

1496
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,110
Warehouse in Houston Texas I have not

1497
01:12:31,089 --> 01:12:29,360
but I would love to hear about it he

1498
01:12:33,129 --> 01:12:31,099
says it's one of the most popular urban

1499
01:12:37,359 --> 01:12:33,139
legends of a haunted place in Houston

1500
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:37,369
that that's been known for decades this

1501
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:40,400
spaghetti warehouse our ghost

1502
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:44,170
Maureen our ghost only from this planet

1503
01:12:50,649 --> 01:12:48,409
you know it depends what you talk to I

1504
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:50,659
mean because you know there are many

1505
01:12:55,870 --> 01:12:53,570
thought processes on that you know you

1506
01:12:59,709 --> 01:12:55,880
know I don't even necessarily know for

1507
01:13:01,000 --> 01:12:59,719
me if I say you know I think personally

1508
01:13:03,250 --> 01:13:01,010
like when someone says someone dies and

1509
01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:03,260
goes to heaven I don't necessarily if my

1510
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:04,440
opinion is have

1511
01:13:11,180 --> 01:13:08,489
not a place but a vibration so to me

1512
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:11,190
we're kind of all in this space but

1513
01:13:16,010 --> 01:13:12,690
we're vibrating at different levels

1514
01:13:18,490 --> 01:13:16,020
energetically now just listening to this

1515
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:18,500
show right you're telling these stories

1516
01:13:28,939 --> 01:13:25,520
are we in danger am I in danger psychic

1517
01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:28,949
I say that right I have to tell you a

1518
01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:37,080
little story and don't be afraid so I

1519
01:13:42,170 --> 01:13:40,140
you know our books came in and my

1520
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:42,180
husband you know he's does construction

1521
01:13:47,420 --> 01:13:45,150
right so he goes to work and you know

1522
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:47,430
he's funny cuz he's so you know grounded

1523
01:13:52,250 --> 01:13:49,199
and he pretends like he never talks

1524
01:13:55,010 --> 01:13:52,260
about what I do and then yet he comes

1525
01:13:57,140 --> 01:13:55,020
home and he says yeah you know this guy

1526
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:57,150
at work would love one of your books and

1527
01:14:02,570 --> 01:13:59,520
I thought well how did that subject come

1528
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:02,580
up right and so anyway he said well no

1529
01:14:06,979 --> 01:14:04,890
and and he got our first book and so

1530
01:14:09,229 --> 01:14:06,989
this time he's working again and this

1531
01:14:11,300 --> 01:14:09,239
person wants the second book now let's

1532
01:14:13,340 --> 01:14:11,310
talk about the fact that he this

1533
01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:13,350
gentleman lives with his wife and i

1534
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:15,000
haunted they believe a haunted house

1535
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,730
okay there you go and they don't want me

1536
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:19,199
to come home they don't want me to come

1537
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:20,730
investigate because they're afraid it's

1538
01:14:25,130 --> 01:14:23,280
gonna start getting active again which I

1539
01:14:27,740 --> 01:14:25,140
said that's fine I mean you know it's

1540
01:14:29,930 --> 01:14:27,750
free well I'm not you know I don't have

1541
01:14:32,570 --> 01:14:29,940
to go to your house that's fine so I

1542
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:32,580
give him a book maybe last week he gets

1543
01:14:38,420 --> 01:14:36,239
a book so he tells my husband two days

1544
01:14:41,060 --> 01:14:38,430
ago well I'm giving you the book back

1545
01:14:42,650 --> 01:14:41,070
right and he said why I said well

1546
01:14:45,410 --> 01:14:42,660
because now things are starting to

1547
01:14:46,189 --> 01:14:45,420
happen again in the house and I said Oh

1548
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,199
blame me

1549
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:48,719
right so you know something's going to

1550
01:14:52,850 --> 01:14:51,090
happen and so now you know something

1551
01:14:54,620 --> 01:14:52,860
little things start to happen and he's

1552
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:54,630
now his wife is saying you need to get

1553
01:14:59,180 --> 01:14:56,610
the book out of the house and I'm like

1554
01:15:02,180 --> 01:14:59,190
oh now do I believe that that's the case

1555
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:02,190
mm-hmm I don't know but anything's

1556
01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:05,730
possible but I will say intentions a big

1557
01:15:12,260 --> 01:15:09,390
thing right so to me the intent of you

1558
01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:12,270
know spirits and you know believing a

1559
01:15:17,930 --> 01:15:14,460
lot of times and kind of I hate to say

1560
01:15:18,330 --> 01:15:17,940
inviting them but just putting them on

1561
01:15:19,890 --> 01:15:18,340
the for

1562
01:15:21,570 --> 01:15:19,900
front of your mind maybe these things

1563
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:21,580
were going on for these people and they

1564
01:15:25,919 --> 01:15:23,770
had desensitized themselves but now that

1565
01:15:29,070 --> 01:15:25,929
they're revisiting reading into some of

1566
01:15:33,149 --> 01:15:29,080
the paranormal stories right it's kind

1567
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:33,159
of opening that awareness again I'll

1568
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:35,530
tell you something really funny I said I

1569
01:15:42,770 --> 01:15:39,030
had one ghost story but about a year ago

1570
01:15:46,050 --> 01:15:42,780
Rita and I we wrap the show we go home

1571
01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:46,060
and we're we're sitting in bed and we're

1572
01:15:52,740 --> 01:15:49,960
talking about the show and in we have

1573
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:52,750
the typical master bedroom you know at

1574
01:15:59,700 --> 01:15:55,330
the foot you know at the far side of the

1575
01:16:01,919 --> 01:15:59,710
bedroom master bath and in that in in

1576
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:01,929
that areas of a master you know a

1577
01:16:05,879 --> 01:16:03,670
walk-in closets another room right a

1578
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:05,889
walk-in closet and that's on the right

1579
01:16:14,820 --> 01:16:10,330
on the left the the commode the John the

1580
01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:14,830
toilet is in its own separate room right

1581
01:16:23,689 --> 01:16:18,550
with a door and which is always closed

1582
01:16:28,169 --> 01:16:23,699
but that particular toilet the seat is

1583
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,179
like hard to move right it's impossible

1584
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:30,400
to move and yes

1585
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:34,960
I leave it up the lid not the seat the

1586
01:16:40,050 --> 01:16:37,570
lid the lid is always up on the toilet

1587
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:40,060
it's it's a it's a creak it's hard it

1588
01:16:45,899 --> 01:16:42,400
just so many way it just always stays up

1589
01:16:49,620 --> 01:16:45,909
and and so we're sitting sitting here in

1590
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:49,630
bed talking got books out or whatever

1591
01:17:03,080 --> 01:16:56,800
and boom and Rita it turns to me and she

1592
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:08,820
I thought you were honey she's like are

1593
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:10,210
you gonna go check it out I'm like I

1594
01:17:17,129 --> 01:17:12,250
don't I did it was the toilet seat ooh

1595
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:17,139
fell down exactly we get it can't I did

1596
01:17:25,290 --> 01:17:19,570
very smart woman I did you know what

1597
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:25,300
Maureen I didn't do it just like you

1598
01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:26,830
know just like any you know let's just

1599
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:29,860
let's not disturb the spirits and what

1600
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,170
about you know and

1601
01:17:36,590 --> 01:17:34,800
about that by the way do you advise

1602
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:36,600
people you know they go and they watch

1603
01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:38,730
these ghost hunting shows so now they

1604
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:40,830
want to go and capture evps in their

1605
01:17:45,229 --> 01:17:42,719
house and walk around the house like zak

1606
01:17:47,090 --> 01:17:45,239
bagans you know trying to trying to

1607
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:47,100
anger the spirits and get something to

1608
01:17:53,780 --> 01:17:51,330
happen do you what what kind of advice

1609
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:53,790
you dispense with people that want to

1610
01:17:59,900 --> 01:17:56,449
investigate their own house be careful

1611
01:18:03,320 --> 01:17:59,910
and I say that in such a way because you

1612
01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:03,330
know we have EVP specialists that are on

1613
01:18:08,689 --> 01:18:06,540
our team and let's just say that from

1614
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:08,699
what I've heard and I don't really go

1615
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:10,770
and record them myself right because I'm

1616
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:14,489
doing other things but when you're using

1617
01:18:18,590 --> 01:18:16,650
the evey you know taking EVPs for

1618
01:18:20,060 --> 01:18:18,600
instance now I'm not saying you have to

1619
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:20,070
be terrified of everywhere you go

1620
01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:23,040
however depending on where your location

1621
01:18:27,290 --> 01:18:25,800
is and your you know you're making the

1622
01:18:29,419 --> 01:18:27,300
acknowledgement right that you're

1623
01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:29,429
communicating in front I've heard when

1624
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:32,280
you are starting to get voices on the

1625
01:18:35,810 --> 01:18:34,050
recorder sometimes it takes a while you

1626
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:35,820
may not get you know anything for a

1627
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:38,489
while but if you keep at it you can but

1628
01:18:41,959 --> 01:18:40,410
from what I heard that what happens is

1629
01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:41,969
sometimes you get the lower lying

1630
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:43,830
energies that are out there so you might

1631
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:46,650
hear swearing and screaming and it could

1632
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:49,890
be very disconcerting learning rather to

1633
01:18:53,419 --> 01:18:51,810
hear that and you're not you know you're

1634
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:53,429
expecting to have this sweet spirit

1635
01:18:56,930 --> 01:18:55,440
right someone's in your home they're

1636
01:18:59,360 --> 01:18:56,940
very kind and they're very sweet you'll

1637
01:19:01,490 --> 01:18:59,370
hope so anyway and I'm not saying that

1638
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:01,500
everything's demonic but there are

1639
01:19:06,290 --> 01:19:03,449
spirits out there that may not be the

1640
01:19:09,260 --> 01:19:06,300
sweetest that you might be picking up on

1641
01:19:13,580 --> 01:19:09,270
your EVPs for EVPs let's say what kind

1642
01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:13,590
of recorders do you guys use I want to

1643
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:17,520
say that they use just panasonic's there

1644
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:19,650
was a certain brand and I cannot recall

1645
01:19:23,209 --> 01:19:21,270
to chop my head but there's there was

1646
01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:23,219
one that was out there that it was like

1647
01:19:28,669 --> 01:19:26,100
Panasonic 360 or 560 or something like

1648
01:19:30,650 --> 01:19:28,679
that and it was one that was like you

1649
01:19:31,939 --> 01:19:30,660
know it was hot by if he could get it on

1650
01:19:33,860 --> 01:19:31,949
eBay because they were a little bit

1651
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:33,870
older but they would supposedly had a

1652
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:35,730
lot more clarity and when you were

1653
01:19:42,979 --> 01:19:38,520
recording you can get a much better

1654
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:42,989
sound quality we use we've got tascam we

1655
01:19:55,130 --> 01:19:43,710
use

1656
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:55,140
tascam dr-05 a piece freaked me out I

1657
01:20:03,700 --> 01:19:57,810
mean seriously I mean out of everything

1658
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:03,710
and what's your could be an EVP story

1659
01:20:09,530 --> 01:20:06,719
well one of them actually that Ron and I

1660
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:09,540
were just chuckling about today was you

1661
01:20:13,370 --> 01:20:11,610
know you people will say hey do spirits

1662
01:20:15,890 --> 01:20:13,380
know that you're coming right or do they

1663
01:20:18,620 --> 01:20:15,900
recognize you when you're there and as

1664
01:20:20,630 --> 01:20:18,630
as odd as this may sound we actually

1665
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:20,640
went to this one investigation one time

1666
01:20:23,930 --> 01:20:22,050
and you know when you're setting up your

1667
01:20:26,330 --> 01:20:23,940
equipment and you're putting out the

1668
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:26,340
recorders and you're not even totally

1669
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:29,130
ready yet right but you have your

1670
01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:31,170
equipment out and maybe someone has it

1671
01:20:35,690 --> 01:20:33,780
recording at the time but what we later

1672
01:20:37,490 --> 01:20:35,700
heard was you know we were asking

1673
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:37,500
questions of the homeowners and in the

1674
01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:41,310
back it said it's the Ghostbusters man

1675
01:20:46,459 --> 01:20:43,710
you think it was kind of funny and so

1676
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:46,469
much so it sounded so clear that we did

1677
01:20:51,650 --> 01:20:49,050
many talks for years and Ron would play

1678
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,660
that as we walked in just because it was

1679
01:20:57,650 --> 01:20:54,320
it really was an EVP that he picked up

1680
01:21:01,520 --> 01:20:57,660
how do you how do you do that how do you

1681
01:21:05,330 --> 01:21:01,530
stir the spirit to get them or our EVPs

1682
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:05,340
accidental you know we making it

1683
01:21:10,970 --> 01:21:08,310
conscious intent to when we start

1684
01:21:13,190 --> 01:21:10,980
communicating so everybody is a part of

1685
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:13,200
the team so as I'm feeling that energy

1686
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:16,560
come in and I can feel them trying to

1687
01:21:22,430 --> 01:21:19,530
communicate we'll ask questions well you

1688
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:22,440
know we'll kind of hover around you know

1689
01:21:25,490 --> 01:21:24,000
we get into a circle and then we have

1690
01:21:27,229 --> 01:21:25,500
someone taking for you know doing the

1691
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:27,239
photography another person with the

1692
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:29,489
thermal you know maybe a thermal-imaging

1693
01:21:35,180 --> 01:21:33,330
camera or temperature sensors we'll have

1694
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:35,190
some videos depending on what if it's

1695
01:21:39,050 --> 01:21:36,960
something they see lights or activity

1696
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:39,060
that goes on objects moving we'll make

1697
01:21:43,130 --> 01:21:40,770
sure to videotape and then we have

1698
01:21:44,660 --> 01:21:43,140
someone there with us doing the EVPs and

1699
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:44,670
we'll stand there and take moments and

1700
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:46,890
ask a question and allow moment you know

1701
01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:50,250
allow a response to come let's tell me

1702
01:21:56,570 --> 01:21:54,450
about there's so many great titles here

1703
01:22:05,200 --> 01:21:56,580
but I've got a few that were

1704
01:22:08,900 --> 01:22:05,210
and the 1859 house what happened there

1705
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:08,910
that one was I don't know if you recall

1706
01:22:14,510 --> 01:22:12,510
the history of it but the 1859 house was

1707
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:14,520
pretty much the movers and shakers of

1708
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:17,610
time in that time period they were you

1709
01:22:22,700 --> 01:22:19,890
know they had kind of they play gambling

1710
01:22:24,140 --> 01:22:22,710
and they did had pool tables and you

1711
01:22:25,940 --> 01:22:24,150
know it was a place for the gentlemen's

1712
01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:25,950
club to meet and they had you know

1713
01:22:29,450 --> 01:22:27,720
ladies of the night let's say that they

1714
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:29,460
would bring to this location and so

1715
01:22:36,170 --> 01:22:33,600
forth and you know Ron you know set this

1716
01:22:39,980 --> 01:22:36,180
event up with you know bringing about

1717
01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:39,990
maybe 30 to 35 people if not more on an

1718
01:22:43,730 --> 01:22:42,300
actual investigation you know we did an

1719
01:22:47,150 --> 01:22:43,740
investigation to teach people how to

1720
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:47,160
investigate so the really the most

1721
01:22:53,180 --> 01:22:49,650
active location there is down in the

1722
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:53,190
basement so you know all of us are we

1723
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:55,170
split up the teams and then half of us

1724
01:23:00,710 --> 01:22:56,970
went down in the basement and this this

1725
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:00,720
particular investigation was one that I

1726
01:23:04,820 --> 01:23:03,210
had been early on so maybe I'd been a

1727
01:23:09,170 --> 01:23:04,830
month or two with the with the ghost

1728
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:09,180
project so when we got inside the 1859

1729
01:23:12,650 --> 01:23:10,410
house you know we're down in the

1730
01:23:14,420 --> 01:23:12,660
basement and Ron and I was still kind of

1731
01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:14,430
learning you know from each other so

1732
01:23:18,890 --> 01:23:17,100
working together and I'm over there

1733
01:23:21,620 --> 01:23:18,900
starting to feel energy so I'm trying to

1734
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:21,630
explain to Ron that I can feel a

1735
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:24,330
presence of this spirit there and he was

1736
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:27,120
you know he was angry right and you know

1737
01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:29,040
not that everybody is but I could feel

1738
01:23:32,660 --> 01:23:31,140
his anger me that he got hit in the back

1739
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:32,670
of the head he had been killed by a

1740
01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:34,650
woman there and he was so furious and I

1741
01:23:39,710 --> 01:23:37,260
I recall hearing the recording later but

1742
01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:39,720
I was screaming and swearing at you know

1743
01:23:44,780 --> 01:23:41,160
the woman I'll try to be nice on the

1744
01:23:46,970 --> 01:23:44,790
radio and so what happened is I told Ron

1745
01:23:49,130 --> 01:23:46,980
I could feel this energy around us and

1746
01:23:51,530 --> 01:23:49,140
so Ron you're I'm sure you're familiar

1747
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,540
with an EMF meter right of course yes

1748
01:23:56,330 --> 01:23:54,480
okay so you know Ron being Ron you know

1749
01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:56,340
he's got the EMF meter and he's holding

1750
01:24:00,770 --> 01:23:58,770
it waist high and you know he's not sure

1751
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:00,780
to trust me right and he's saying oh you

1752
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:00,930
know

1753
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:02,730
oh come on Marvin there can't be anybody

1754
01:24:07,940 --> 01:24:04,800
here cuz it's not even going off I don't

1755
01:24:09,650 --> 01:24:07,950
even register anything micron he's above

1756
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:09,660
our heads it was almost as if the spirit

1757
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:10,530
was

1758
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:14,489
hovering over us and you know I just I

1759
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:16,770
could feel this anger I mean I couldn't

1760
01:24:23,089 --> 01:24:19,610
even express it more than just you know

1761
01:24:25,310 --> 01:24:23,099
putrid anger and so he's floating above

1762
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:25,320
us and so Ron I said please put the

1763
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:27,840
meter up above our heads so he puts the

1764
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:30,690
meter over my head and it starts blaring

1765
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:32,610
like it didn't even stop it's just going

1766
01:24:38,959 --> 01:24:35,130
non-stop red it's beeping you know

1767
01:24:40,549 --> 01:24:38,969
continuously and so you know you have to

1768
01:24:43,069 --> 01:24:40,559
be careful when you're communicating

1769
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:43,079
with the spirit because if you're too

1770
01:24:46,459 --> 01:24:45,210
little and you're not you know you got

1771
01:24:48,830 --> 01:24:46,469
to be careful what you say in other

1772
01:24:51,140 --> 01:24:48,840
words so you know I'm listening to what

1773
01:24:51,919 --> 01:24:51,150
Ron saying he's like oh yeah wow he's

1774
01:24:54,649 --> 01:24:51,929
right here

1775
01:24:57,229 --> 01:24:54,659
so he's like well he's above us tell him

1776
01:24:59,540 --> 01:24:57,239
reel em in while in my mind you know how

1777
01:25:01,220 --> 01:24:59,550
you just you hear what someone says it

1778
01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:01,230
was almost as if I was consciously

1779
01:25:07,129 --> 01:25:04,500
saying that and the spirit came from

1780
01:25:10,220 --> 01:25:07,139
above me came right down straight into

1781
01:25:12,109 --> 01:25:10,230
my abdomen and he followed it with the

1782
01:25:14,930 --> 01:25:12,119
EMF meter like he literally followed the

1783
01:25:17,319 --> 01:25:14,940
stream of the light coming right down to

1784
01:25:19,970 --> 01:25:17,329
my abdomen and I dropped like a rock

1785
01:25:23,169 --> 01:25:19,980
this you know the energy came in it

1786
01:25:25,310 --> 01:25:23,179
literally took every bit of energy I had

1787
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:25,320
absorbed my own I couldn't even get off

1788
01:25:29,149 --> 01:25:26,610
the floor

1789
01:25:31,069 --> 01:25:29,159
you know I'm thinking oh lesson learned

1790
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:31,079
over here you know be careful what you

1791
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,210
ask for you know real lemon probably

1792
01:25:37,310 --> 01:25:35,280
wasn't the best word to ask and

1793
01:25:38,990 --> 01:25:37,320
thankfully at that time there was a

1794
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:39,000
couple of women who were from a

1795
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:41,010
spiritualist Church there and they had

1796
01:25:46,459 --> 01:25:43,170
worked with energy and Reiki masters and

1797
01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:46,469
so they sat there with me you know

1798
01:25:50,540 --> 01:25:48,360
trying to help me build my energy back

1799
01:25:52,819 --> 01:25:50,550
up so that I could continue for the

1800
01:25:55,819 --> 01:25:52,829
night and it was it was rough it was a

1801
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:55,829
rough night in there what did you feel

1802
01:26:02,450 --> 01:26:00,239
like could you tell that you you know

1803
01:26:06,649 --> 01:26:02,460
your body was entered by a you know by

1804
01:26:08,750 --> 01:26:06,659
an entity yeah you know it happened you

1805
01:26:11,540 --> 01:26:08,760
know I'm channeling you can feel that

1806
01:26:13,810 --> 01:26:11,550
but I always say that it's like a comic

1807
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:13,820
dance right so if a spirit comes in

1808
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:16,110
sometimes if they come in lightly it's

1809
01:26:20,779 --> 01:26:18,090
not a big deal and I could feel that

1810
01:26:23,180 --> 01:26:20,789
energy and I can communicate and try to

1811
01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:23,190
relay what they want or they might stand

1812
01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:24,000
next to me

1813
01:26:27,260 --> 01:26:25,800
close to me and I'm actually you know

1814
01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:27,270
getting the thought in my mind or they

1815
01:26:32,210 --> 01:26:29,190
whisper in my ear it's it's a little

1816
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:32,220
different every time but when I say they

1817
01:26:36,770 --> 01:26:34,710
cross that comic line is because they

1818
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,780
don't care if they steal your energy

1819
01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:39,120
right in fact they need energy to

1820
01:26:44,210 --> 01:26:41,190
manifest so guess what you have energy

1821
01:26:47,540 --> 01:26:44,220
I'm going to take it and so that's what

1822
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:47,550
coming in in in to me it's it's as if

1823
01:26:52,670 --> 01:26:49,620
you know you're stealing everything of

1824
01:26:54,830 --> 01:26:52,680
energy that I have and I feel after like

1825
01:26:56,420 --> 01:26:54,840
a one out you know dish rag you know

1826
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:56,430
when you say if you can imagine a

1827
01:27:00,890 --> 01:26:58,650
dishrag and you you wring that out and

1828
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,900
it's just limp and lifeless that's what

1829
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,360
I feel like right did your did your legs

1830
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:05,520
just give out and what do you what did

1831
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,080
you see by the way did your vision get

1832
01:27:16,250 --> 01:27:12,960
blurred it did it went dark yeah went

1833
01:27:18,860 --> 01:27:16,260
dark yeah it just went blurry and dark

1834
01:27:21,770 --> 01:27:18,870
and the energy gets so escalated that I

1835
01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:21,780
I you know it got escalated and then

1836
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:24,450
almost as if I had a glass of water that

1837
01:27:29,390 --> 01:27:27,090
they just emptied I had nothing left I

1838
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:29,400
literally they had to drag me over to

1839
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:31,770
the side so that they could help me get

1840
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:34,410
on my feet what do you do you get

1841
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:36,330
energized from that not from the

1842
01:27:40,580 --> 01:27:38,490
incident but Dee are you ready to just

1843
01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:40,590
go back and face the spirits now you

1844
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:44,310
know maybe a little anger you know

1845
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:47,130
sometimes I you know for those who have

1846
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:48,810
read the first book right there'd be

1847
01:27:53,540 --> 01:27:51,210
like oh my god Maureen like what are you

1848
01:27:55,070 --> 01:27:53,550
doing and and you have to understand

1849
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:55,080
when you're writing the stories you're

1850
01:27:58,670 --> 01:27:56,730
not gonna pick the boring ones right

1851
01:28:01,130 --> 01:27:58,680
you're gonna pick the stories that were

1852
01:28:02,990 --> 01:28:01,140
intense so in those moments I I would

1853
01:28:06,260 --> 01:28:03,000
read it after myself and go yeah I left

1854
01:28:08,090 --> 01:28:06,270
a lot things we get really intense I

1855
01:28:10,340 --> 01:28:08,100
need to breathe you know I literally

1856
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:10,350
need to get off the property get out of

1857
01:28:12,860 --> 01:28:12,210
the way for a few minutes and get catch

1858
01:28:15,530 --> 01:28:12,870
my breath

1859
01:28:18,110 --> 01:28:15,540
so that I can build my energy back up

1860
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and then go back in and you can't let

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yourself be afraid you know I think I'm

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afraid later if I watch a scary movie

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Jim Jimmy I'm a terrified but if I go on

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investigation I'm fine and I think it's

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because I can allow myself to be in that

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fearful state versus if I'm on an

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investigation

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afraid I'm easy pickings I keep you know

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funny I just remember to never go story

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of ours ok I'll share my brief little

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boring stuff when we come back tonight

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Maureen wood and when we come back we're

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gonna go to book one now we'll take a

1876
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trip backwards and Maureen is gonna tell

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us the story about when she brought a

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jimmy Church this is

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revolution the revolution will not be

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[Music]

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01:33:41,170 --> 01:33:39,550
welcome back fade to black cameo

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signature you can follow me on twitter

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at j radio hashtag f2 B is the sandbox

1963
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:49,130
lots of ghostly activity going on there

1964
01:33:53,620 --> 01:33:51,050
tonight is night 2 about Halloween week

1965
01:33:56,110 --> 01:33:53,630
Maureen wood is here with us and her

1966
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book that she co-wrote with her partner

1967
01:34:01,540 --> 01:33:59,180
Ron Kola is called more ghost Chronicles

1968
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:01,550
and Maureen so I'm sitting here thinking

1969
01:34:05,170 --> 01:34:03,650
you know I've got one ghost story well

1970
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actually you know they're starting to

1971
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come back one briefly Rihanna Rita and I

1972
01:34:15,670 --> 01:34:12,140
are staying up at Mount Shasta and we're

1973
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:15,680
in an air B&B this this house it's

1974
01:34:22,330 --> 01:34:18,770
probably 100 150 year old house really

1975
01:34:23,860 --> 01:34:22,340
old lots of antiques little cards were

1976
01:34:25,870 --> 01:34:23,870
laid out around the house

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01:34:30,730 --> 01:34:25,880
describing the different antiques and

1978
01:34:32,770 --> 01:34:30,740
and in the bedroom was a wardrobe that

1979
01:34:35,950 --> 01:34:32,780
had an old dress in it and there's a

1980
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description of this this lace white like

1981
01:34:40,660 --> 01:34:37,880
wedding dress and thing that was in

1982
01:34:43,050 --> 01:34:40,670
there that was kind of creepy and but

1983
01:34:45,910 --> 01:34:43,060
anyway all of the door handles

1984
01:34:48,430 --> 01:34:45,920
throughout the house were the the old

1985
01:34:51,940 --> 01:34:48,440
ones right with the crystal knobs

1986
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:51,950
you know old and the bedroom door we had

1987
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:55,130
to push shut and and force it shut and

1988
01:35:01,630 --> 01:34:57,770
then wiggle the handle and wait for it

1989
01:35:03,610 --> 01:35:01,640
to catch right for it to close so I

1990
01:35:05,980 --> 01:35:03,620
closed it right now push the door and I

1991
01:35:10,690 --> 01:35:05,990
would look you know and it latches and

1992
01:35:13,330 --> 01:35:10,700
we're sitting there in bed and and for a

1993
01:35:25,060 --> 01:35:13,340
few minutes and all of a sudden the door

1994
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:25,070
literally goes click we're staring at

1995
01:35:38,290 --> 01:35:27,290
each other and she's are you gonna shut

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01:35:41,770 --> 01:35:38,300
the door no door stayed open but it

1997
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:41,780
unlatched it went click click and I know

1998
01:35:46,900 --> 01:35:44,210
it I knew it when I heard it go click

1999
01:35:49,090 --> 01:35:46,910
click it was gonna open and and it did

2000
01:35:49,530 --> 01:35:49,100
and it you know like six inches and I'm

2001
01:35:55,470 --> 01:35:49,540
like

2002
01:35:58,260 --> 01:35:55,480
everything is cool everything is cool

2003
01:36:00,990 --> 01:35:58,270
nothing bad has happened but they just

2004
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:01,000
let us know yeah it was it was pretty

2005
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:03,370
interesting okay let's go back let's go

2006
01:36:10,260 --> 01:36:07,930
back to book one and and the the story

2007
01:36:11,970 --> 01:36:10,270
which I haven't heard yet and I'm gonna

2008
01:36:14,430 --> 01:36:11,980
let everybody know Maureen said you know

2009
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:14,440
I've got to tell you the story from book

2010
01:36:21,180 --> 01:36:17,140
one when I when I brought somebody home

2011
01:36:23,130 --> 01:36:21,190
with me so what happened okay so well I

2012
01:36:25,190 --> 01:36:23,140
can say it easily because my husband's

2013
01:36:28,740 --> 01:36:25,200
sleeping right now so he won't hear me

2014
01:36:30,450 --> 01:36:28,750
but let's just say that my husband's you

2015
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:30,460
know as great guys always tried have

2016
01:36:35,250 --> 01:36:33,130
been supportive of me however you know

2017
01:36:37,380 --> 01:36:35,260
it's it's interesting to have a medium

2018
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:37,390
for a wife and he's terrified of the

2019
01:36:43,950 --> 01:36:40,480
dead right so you know it's just this

2020
01:36:46,530 --> 01:36:43,960
opposites right so all the time we've

2021
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:46,540
been married for god it'll be 35 years

2022
01:36:52,230 --> 01:36:49,600
next year so you know I've been 19 years

2023
01:36:54,630 --> 01:36:52,240
old when I got married to him and you

2024
01:36:56,580 --> 01:36:54,640
know I was still doing all this then and

2025
01:36:57,090 --> 01:36:56,590
you know he'd say oh you'll grow out of

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01:36:59,220 --> 01:36:57,100
it

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01:37:01,530 --> 01:36:59,230
you know this because he wanted to say

2028
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:01,540
this he couldn't understand why I would

2029
01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:02,800
chase the dead and I'm like I'm not

2030
01:37:08,370 --> 01:37:05,830
chasing the dead they're chasing me but

2031
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:08,380
so now that little bit of background so

2032
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:09,910
let's just say we do an investigation

2033
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:12,490
which is in book 1 and it's of at the

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01:37:18,030 --> 01:37:14,850
Concord colonial Inn in Concord mass

2035
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:18,040
it's an end that obviously was

2036
01:37:23,420 --> 01:37:19,570
originally a home and then a boarding

2037
01:37:26,850 --> 01:37:23,430
house and it was built before the 1700s

2038
01:37:28,740 --> 01:37:26,860
so it's been around for quite a while in

2039
01:37:32,310 --> 01:37:28,750
fact I think Thoreau and his aunts had

2040
01:37:34,050 --> 01:37:32,320
lived there for a period of time so you

2041
01:37:36,450 --> 01:37:34,060
know it's rumored to be built on an

2042
01:37:39,470 --> 01:37:36,460
Indian burial ground and all this stuff

2043
01:37:42,150 --> 01:37:39,480
and this in itself is very very

2044
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:42,160
paranormally active right so you have

2045
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:45,370
the haunted room 24 you have books will

2046
01:37:50,850 --> 01:37:47,440
come flying off the shelves downstairs

2047
01:37:53,460 --> 01:37:50,860
in their dining room you know lights you

2048
01:37:56,370 --> 01:37:53,470
know in fact the wait staff and nobody

2049
01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:56,380
wants to go you know upstairs to that

2050
01:37:59,760 --> 01:37:57,970
room because they are literally

2051
01:38:01,439 --> 01:37:59,770
terrified so as part of our

2052
01:38:03,930 --> 01:38:01,449
investigation

2053
01:38:05,490 --> 01:38:03,940
Ron and the you know and his team were

2054
01:38:08,250 --> 01:38:05,500
invited so we all went to go there we

2055
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:08,260
had dinner Ron and his wife were gonna

2056
01:38:11,490 --> 01:38:10,090
be staying in that room for the night

2057
01:38:14,700 --> 01:38:11,500
and we were gonna do the radio show

2058
01:38:16,410 --> 01:38:14,710
before we you know we left for the night

2059
01:38:18,379 --> 01:38:16,420
and Ron and his wife stayed there they

2060
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:18,389
had the cameras on and so forth now

2061
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:21,280
here's the deal so Ron and his wife with

2062
01:38:24,859 --> 01:38:23,199
their another raw team members it's you

2063
01:38:26,729 --> 01:38:24,869
know they're couples right so

2064
01:38:28,410 --> 01:38:26,739
boyfriend/girlfriend husband/wife you

2065
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:28,420
know everybody's together me and by

2066
01:38:33,330 --> 01:38:31,510
myself so my husband would always try to

2067
01:38:35,220 --> 01:38:33,340
be supportive you know and he'd say I'm

2068
01:38:37,140 --> 01:38:35,230
gonna come meet you for dinner and then

2069
01:38:39,359 --> 01:38:37,150
he would always call and cancel I'm late

2070
01:38:41,970 --> 01:38:39,369
I can't make it and I know it's because

2071
01:38:44,189 --> 01:38:41,980
he's terrified right so I say that's

2072
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:44,199
fine well anyway the night goes on we

2073
01:38:48,750 --> 01:38:46,000
investigate so we're in this haunted

2074
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:48,760
room 24 we do the radio show well I'm

2075
01:38:52,410 --> 01:38:50,290
like look it's 2:00 in the morning now

2076
01:38:54,209 --> 01:38:52,420
I'm literally going home I can't you

2077
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:54,219
know and they're asking so why didn't

2078
01:38:58,140 --> 01:38:56,170
Steve show up tonight and I'm like yeah

2079
01:39:00,540 --> 01:38:58,150
yeah well you guys are lucky because of

2080
01:39:03,540 --> 01:39:00,550
you know your couples right and I said

2081
01:39:05,070 --> 01:39:03,550
yeah that's okay so I said I'm gonna use

2082
01:39:07,470 --> 01:39:05,080
your bathroom so I go into the bathroom

2083
01:39:09,090 --> 01:39:07,480
now Jimmy I'm in there I you know

2084
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:09,100
obviously use the facilities I go to

2085
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:10,810
wash my hands I look up in the mirror

2086
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:13,210
and in front of me now is this woman

2087
01:39:19,410 --> 01:39:16,960
with dark hair I'm more blonde right so

2088
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:19,420
this is dark hair in a Victorian gown

2089
01:39:24,300 --> 01:39:22,510
and I thought oh boy you know and I'm

2090
01:39:25,859 --> 01:39:24,310
you know wanted to speak with her but I

2091
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:25,869
said you know I'm sorry I'm so tired

2092
01:39:30,899 --> 01:39:27,850
I'll make a trip back I'll come back and

2093
01:39:32,939 --> 01:39:30,909
I'll talk with you so I know it's kind

2094
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:32,949
of crazy but I was exhausted I mean we

2095
01:39:39,149 --> 01:39:35,610
had we had been there for hours right

2096
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:39,159
investigating all night and so I come

2097
01:39:43,379 --> 01:39:41,530
out of the bathroom and Ron right away

2098
01:39:45,390 --> 01:39:43,389
they're talking to me about again why

2099
01:39:47,310 --> 01:39:45,400
didn't Steve come and that's too bad and

2100
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:47,320
I said you know what

2101
01:39:51,689 --> 01:39:49,330
he just needs a nickname he needs an

2102
01:39:53,220 --> 01:39:51,699
experience for himself what don't say

2103
01:39:54,359 --> 01:39:53,230
that in a haunted environment probably

2104
01:39:57,090 --> 01:39:54,369
not a good thing to say

2105
01:39:59,160 --> 01:39:57,100
wait wait you didn't tell Ron by the way

2106
01:40:01,919 --> 01:39:59,170
I was just you know chatting with

2107
01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:01,929
somebody in the bathroom yeah I did but

2108
01:40:06,180 --> 01:40:04,030
that's when I said I did tell him like

2109
01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:06,190
immediately after I said in fact you are

2110
01:40:09,450 --> 01:40:07,630
psychic because that's exactly what I

2111
01:40:12,300 --> 01:40:09,460
told him I'm like by the way there's a

2112
01:40:15,060 --> 01:40:12,310
woman in your bathroom and you know Ron

2113
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:15,070
being Ron you know he's always missed

2114
01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:17,440
to funny you know he's like woohoo right

2115
01:40:21,060 --> 01:40:19,300
he jumps on the bed and he makes this

2116
01:40:22,890 --> 01:40:21,070
big scene of like come and get me and

2117
01:40:24,780 --> 01:40:22,900
I'm like don't say that I said and you

2118
01:40:26,130 --> 01:40:24,790
know what be careful what you wish for

2119
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:26,140
us so I brought up you know the

2120
01:40:30,900 --> 01:40:28,000
Ghostbusters right I said remember the

2121
01:40:33,540 --> 01:40:30,910
librarian how she was so beautiful but

2122
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:33,550
you know when you know they you know

2123
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:35,440
when the spirit came out her face

2124
01:40:39,660 --> 01:40:37,090
shriveled away to nothing but a skull

2125
01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:39,670
and eye sockets right so he's like yeah

2126
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:42,280
yeah yeah whatever so now I'm thinking

2127
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:43,930
okay good night I'm going home

2128
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:47,260
so I leave but now Jimmy I usually when

2129
01:40:52,260 --> 01:40:50,170
I leave I you know do a cleansing and I

2130
01:40:55,170 --> 01:40:52,270
do all this stuff for myself just to get

2131
01:40:57,480 --> 01:40:55,180
myself clear so when I go home for some

2132
01:40:59,610 --> 01:40:57,490
reason that night I was exhausted I just

2133
01:41:01,650 --> 01:40:59,620
could not even like I could barely keep

2134
01:41:04,380 --> 01:41:01,660
my eyes open to drive home so I said I'm

2135
01:41:05,700 --> 01:41:04,390
just gonna go home so I go home I get

2136
01:41:08,030 --> 01:41:05,710
into my house now it's like 3:00 in the

2137
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:08,040
morning you know I go to bed

2138
01:41:14,850 --> 01:41:12,010
so I never slept so good I get up the

2139
01:41:17,130 --> 01:41:14,860
next morning however my poor husband

2140
01:41:19,740 --> 01:41:17,140
when I tell you he looked like a deer in

2141
01:41:22,290 --> 01:41:19,750
the headlights he was furious he looked

2142
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:22,300
at me and he's like you you go and

2143
01:41:27,420 --> 01:41:24,850
investigate the paranormal you sleep in

2144
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:27,430
another bedroom I don't what are you

2145
01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:30,370
talking about right so he says you you

2146
01:41:34,890 --> 01:41:32,470
know you came home last night you know

2147
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:34,900
you I heard you get in bed he goes and

2148
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:36,250
then a little while later you were

2149
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:38,410
rubbing my back and I'm like no I wasn't

2150
01:41:44,370 --> 01:41:41,530
you know and he's like yeah he said you

2151
01:41:46,230 --> 01:41:44,380
know and then I was kissing you and you

2152
01:41:48,030 --> 01:41:46,240
know and he says and all of a sudden the

2153
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:48,040
light came in from the curtains of the

2154
01:41:52,170 --> 01:41:50,470
window and I looked down he said and

2155
01:41:54,660 --> 01:41:52,180
your face shriveled away to nothing but

2156
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:54,670
a skull and eye sockets he goes and then

2157
01:41:59,490 --> 01:41:56,080
I turned to my left and you were

2158
01:42:02,460 --> 01:41:59,500
sleeping well I'm sorry but I you know

2159
01:42:04,650 --> 01:42:02,470
think of I finally you know vindicated I

2160
01:42:07,380 --> 01:42:04,660
was laughing so hard and I'd the poor

2161
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:07,390
guy he was so angry with me and he was

2162
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:10,510
terrified so anyway after he kind of you

2163
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:12,400
know dealt with it I said okay can I

2164
01:42:15,660 --> 01:42:13,930
write that and can I put that in a book

2165
01:42:17,940 --> 01:42:15,670
and he's like yeah yeah sure sure cuz

2166
01:42:20,370 --> 01:42:17,950
he's thinking you'll never write it and

2167
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:20,380
sure enough it made it into our first

2168
01:42:26,010 --> 01:42:24,010
book and you know when the publishers

2169
01:42:27,780 --> 01:42:26,020
saw it they were like oh my god you have

2170
01:42:28,930 --> 01:42:27,790
to tone that down that's just that's not

2171
01:42:31,060 --> 01:42:28,940
funny I'm like no

2172
01:42:33,010 --> 01:42:31,070
it's funny when you're a medium and you

2173
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:33,020
live with someone who thinks that you're

2174
01:42:39,150 --> 01:42:36,050
you know a little bit crazy sometimes

2175
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:39,160
and you know and then he finally

2176
01:42:44,710 --> 01:42:41,090
experiences for himself

2177
01:42:55,060 --> 01:42:44,720
right right yeah that is funny that is

2178
01:42:57,310 --> 01:42:55,070
crazy scary it's kind of an evil laugh -

2179
01:43:00,430 --> 01:42:57,320
you're right he needs ya he doesn't need

2180
01:43:04,330 --> 01:43:00,440
to hear the story again but how how is

2181
01:43:07,420 --> 01:43:04,340
he today is is he one of us now no

2182
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:07,430
because well you know it's funny because

2183
01:43:11,980 --> 01:43:09,290
if he went to a book signing one time

2184
01:43:13,900 --> 01:43:11,990
with us and you know there was someone

2185
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:13,910
in the audience and after the stories

2186
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:15,920
you know they they he was in the

2187
01:43:20,410 --> 01:43:17,360
audience and wasn't up front or anything

2188
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:20,420
and the person said um yeah I want to

2189
01:43:25,300 --> 01:43:22,970
ask the husband of Maureen a question

2190
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:25,310
and he's like what what like what do you

2191
01:43:31,480 --> 01:43:27,530
want to ask me and they said you know

2192
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:31,490
what do you think and he said well you

2193
01:43:34,660 --> 01:43:32,090
know what

2194
01:43:37,420 --> 01:43:34,670
he says I know there's something I don't

2195
01:43:40,630 --> 01:43:37,430
know what it is but let's just say I

2196
01:43:42,460 --> 01:43:40,640
have to sleep with her and I thought

2197
01:43:43,710 --> 01:43:42,470
well thanks I guess that's an okay

2198
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:43,720
answer

2199
01:43:52,630 --> 01:43:49,760
he kissed a ghost yeah oh my god you

2200
01:43:58,450 --> 01:43:52,640
cheated on me with a ghost now and and

2201
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:58,460
the ghost touched him you know that's

2202
01:44:05,860 --> 01:44:01,280
that's getting into the physical side of

2203
01:44:10,900 --> 01:44:05,870
things do you have a story of being

2204
01:44:14,230 --> 01:44:10,910
touched well I have some some ones that

2205
01:44:14,830 --> 01:44:14,240
are not in the book but and it actually

2206
01:44:19,060 --> 01:44:14,840
happened

2207
01:44:20,860 --> 01:44:19,070
you know in in a three tenement building

2208
01:44:23,470 --> 01:44:20,870
when I was going out with my husband we

2209
01:44:25,510 --> 01:44:23,480
were engaged to get married and he lived

2210
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:25,520
on the top of this three tenement home

2211
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:28,730
and Lawrence Massachusetts and I have to

2212
01:44:33,130 --> 01:44:31,370
tell you I oh you know did you ever get

2213
01:44:34,570 --> 01:44:33,140
that feeling you walk up to something

2214
01:44:37,060 --> 01:44:34,580
you know it's not right you don't know

2215
01:44:40,510 --> 01:44:37,070
why but you just don't feel good about

2216
01:44:42,710 --> 01:44:40,520
it all the time sure yeah so you know

2217
01:44:44,750 --> 01:44:42,720
even then so I used to tell

2218
01:44:46,340 --> 01:44:44,760
you know I really don't like it here I

2219
01:44:49,250 --> 01:44:46,350
don't want to be in this place I don't

2220
01:44:51,290 --> 01:44:49,260
like in he and you know he had some

2221
01:44:54,140 --> 01:44:51,300
friends that lived with him so he wasn't

2222
01:44:56,330 --> 01:44:54,150
by himself but this one night and you

2223
01:44:57,620 --> 01:44:56,340
know at the time we were young and my

2224
01:45:00,110 --> 01:44:57,630
husband used to you know he's a

2225
01:45:02,570 --> 01:45:00,120
construction worker and he was a hunter

2226
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:02,580
and you know he had a habit of not being

2227
01:45:05,930 --> 01:45:04,110
you know didn't want to he would take

2228
01:45:08,300 --> 01:45:05,940
too many days off so of course me being

2229
01:45:09,860 --> 01:45:08,310
very responsible even at 19 I'd say to

2230
01:45:12,020 --> 01:45:09,870
him you know we're getting married in a

2231
01:45:13,850 --> 01:45:12,030
couple months and you really need to

2232
01:45:16,370 --> 01:45:13,860
kind of you know focus on staying at

2233
01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:16,380
work and you know all this stuff and he

2234
01:45:21,050 --> 01:45:18,270
always would just go off and hunt so

2235
01:45:23,090 --> 01:45:21,060
anyway this one day I decide I'm gonna

2236
01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:23,100
stay at his house with him and I'll get

2237
01:45:26,900 --> 01:45:24,450
up and leave to go to work in the

2238
01:45:30,380 --> 01:45:26,910
morning you know before I go home or at

2239
01:45:32,270 --> 01:45:30,390
night and so you know it was raining and

2240
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:32,280
I remember really raining really hard

2241
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:34,290
and they left him and his friends left

2242
01:45:35,810 --> 01:45:35,280
for work they said we're gonna work

2243
01:45:37,730 --> 01:45:35,820
anyway

2244
01:45:39,410 --> 01:45:37,740
so they take life out of this three

2245
01:45:42,230 --> 01:45:39,420
tenement building why fall back to sleep

2246
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:42,240
and then I wake up because I hear the

2247
01:45:48,380 --> 01:45:46,170
kitchen door slam and the next thing I

2248
01:45:51,110 --> 01:45:48,390
know you know the bedroom door opens up

2249
01:45:53,180 --> 01:45:51,120
and there was someone standing there

2250
01:45:56,090 --> 01:45:53,190
that I thought was my husband and he was

2251
01:45:58,400 --> 01:45:56,100
dressed in hunting gear and so right

2252
01:46:00,140 --> 01:45:58,410
away you know I'm getting really upset

2253
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:00,150
thinking while you told me you're gonna

2254
01:46:03,950 --> 01:46:02,250
be good and you're gonna go to work and

2255
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:03,960
yet you're standing here and you're in

2256
01:46:09,770 --> 01:46:06,450
hunting gear but when I looked at him

2257
01:46:14,030 --> 01:46:09,780
Jimmy the guy the spirit the eyes were

2258
01:46:15,950 --> 01:46:14,040
completely black and it just came and

2259
01:46:18,050 --> 01:46:15,960
turned and then I couldn't even highly

2260
01:46:20,090 --> 01:46:18,060
move but my eyes look to the left and

2261
01:46:22,670 --> 01:46:20,100
right on the wall was all my husband's

2262
01:46:24,710 --> 01:46:22,680
hunting clothes so I'm thinking oh dear

2263
01:46:29,150 --> 01:46:24,720
God and it took me a moment to realize

2264
01:46:31,130 --> 01:46:29,160
that it wasn't my husband or my fiancee

2265
01:46:33,050 --> 01:46:31,140
I don't know what it was I think it was

2266
01:46:35,090 --> 01:46:33,060
a doppelganger so it was someone that

2267
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:35,100
that trying to take the shape of him to

2268
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:37,710
come near me and this thing came right

2269
01:46:42,890 --> 01:46:40,890
close to me leaned down over my face it

2270
01:46:45,470 --> 01:46:42,900
was like an inch away from my face and

2271
01:46:47,420 --> 01:46:45,480
it was one of those when you hear that

2272
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:47,430
somebody has those terrors that you

2273
01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:51,840
can't move I it felt like forever that I

2274
01:46:57,690 --> 01:46:55,390
could not even move to get off the bed

2275
01:46:59,640 --> 01:46:57,700
but I you know for me I close my eyes

2276
01:47:01,680 --> 01:46:59,650
and I prayed and prayed and pray and I

2277
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:01,690
open my eyes and it it finally

2278
01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:05,290
dissipated and I got up and outs hi you

2279
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:08,110
I never moved so fast getting dressed

2280
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:09,970
throwing my clothes halfway on sliding

2281
01:47:13,770 --> 01:47:11,770
down you know getting out of the third

2282
01:47:15,330 --> 01:47:13,780
floor just getting out to my car and I

2283
01:47:17,190 --> 01:47:15,340
told my husband I'm like never

2284
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:17,200
I am never going there again I'm never

2285
01:47:21,330 --> 01:47:19,690
you know staying in that your building

2286
01:47:23,730 --> 01:47:21,340
that's it I'm not because I don't want

2287
01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:23,740
to deal with that and so he's you know

2288
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:25,300
him and his friends were chuckling over

2289
01:47:29,370 --> 01:47:27,760
it but then the landlord came by and he

2290
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:29,380
told the story to the landlord thinking

2291
01:47:34,410 --> 01:47:31,930
the landlord laugh it off and he told

2292
01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:34,420
him well why do you think I left because

2293
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:37,030
he used to live on that floor and that

2294
01:47:40,260 --> 01:47:38,560
was the bedroom he lived in with his

2295
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:40,270
wife and something would pull up the

2296
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:42,250
covers and pull him up and down up and

2297
01:47:46,860 --> 01:47:45,010
down like all night things would happen

2298
01:47:49,980 --> 01:47:46,870
and it turned out that that building

2299
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:49,990
used to be a funeral parlor the three

2300
01:47:54,750 --> 01:47:51,850
floors and they would embalm the bodies

2301
01:47:56,610 --> 01:47:54,760
in the building and that you know

2302
01:47:58,200 --> 01:47:56,620
because it always had a very weird look

2303
01:48:00,780 --> 01:47:58,210
to it is because it only had a little

2304
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:00,790
square or a patch of grass but that's

2305
01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:02,410
where they put the sign for the funeral

2306
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:04,510
parlor how could that not make it to the

2307
01:48:10,260 --> 01:48:07,210
book I know but that happened before the

2308
01:48:12,060 --> 01:48:10,270
ghost project I mean I'm working on my

2309
01:48:14,490 --> 01:48:12,070
own book actually and that's probably

2310
01:48:17,010 --> 01:48:14,500
it's gonna go in that right okay I get

2311
01:48:20,450 --> 01:48:17,020
you I get you it's like how good is the

2312
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:20,460
book if that didn't make it to the book

2313
01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:24,250
the things that wasn't but those are the

2314
01:48:29,730 --> 01:48:27,310
you know but again I when it was goes

2315
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:29,740
Chronicles is because it's you know part

2316
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:31,450
of the team right so those are the ones

2317
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:34,150
that we put in the book and one more

2318
01:48:37,440 --> 01:48:35,770
give us one more from the ghost

2319
01:48:39,060 --> 01:48:37,450
chronicles and then we'll uh we'll get

2320
01:48:41,940 --> 01:48:39,070
back to the new book more ghost

2321
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:41,950
chronicles all right so let's see which

2322
01:48:47,490 --> 01:48:45,040
one oh how about Lizzie Borden house

2323
01:48:50,430 --> 01:48:47,500
there you go there you go the Lizzie

2324
01:48:53,010 --> 01:48:50,440
Borden house you know where every you

2325
01:48:59,010 --> 01:48:53,020
you just look at that house and you know

2326
01:49:01,170 --> 01:48:59,020
what's haunted to tell you it's not very

2327
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:01,180
big is it it's a tiny little place

2328
01:49:07,470 --> 01:49:04,090
actually it's not it's a good size it's

2329
01:49:08,940 --> 01:49:07,480
not it's not that it's not really tiny

2330
01:49:10,830 --> 01:49:08,950
it's broken up just like

2331
01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:10,840
England homes right there built it

2332
01:49:14,970 --> 01:49:12,220
almost seems like they build them and

2333
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:14,980
then they build rooms off of them so the

2334
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:16,930
Lizzie Borden house was actually being

2335
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:18,610
used for a little while as like a

2336
01:49:26,190 --> 01:49:22,570
bed-and-breakfast it's it's pretty yeah

2337
01:49:28,710 --> 01:49:26,200
if anybody is not familiar you know

2338
01:49:30,990 --> 01:49:28,720
Lizzie Borden and I'd have to go back

2339
01:49:35,070 --> 01:49:31,000
and read the dates but I want to say in

2340
01:49:39,690 --> 01:49:35,080
the 1900s early 1900's late 1800s

2341
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:39,700
actually she was accused of and gone to

2342
01:49:44,850 --> 01:49:43,270
court rather to for you know believing

2343
01:49:47,010 --> 01:49:44,860
the stepmother killing the stepmother

2344
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:47,020
and her father and hacking them with a

2345
01:49:53,550 --> 01:49:50,290
axe numerous times you know in the head

2346
01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:53,560
and and so forth but now growing up in

2347
01:49:57,570 --> 01:49:55,450
Massachusetts how could you not know

2348
01:49:59,850 --> 01:49:57,580
right you know all about the Lizzie

2349
01:50:01,860 --> 01:49:59,860
Borden tragedy right that took place and

2350
01:50:04,380 --> 01:50:01,870
you know we all heard about the little

2351
01:50:07,290 --> 01:50:04,390
rhyme that would go along with it for

2352
01:50:08,970 --> 01:50:07,300
years as kids but I'd never been there

2353
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:08,980
and I'd never walked through the house

2354
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:11,260
I'd never gone and you know done in

2355
01:50:15,540 --> 01:50:12,880
investigations you know never did

2356
01:50:17,070 --> 01:50:15,550
anything and then one time Ron said you

2357
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:17,080
know hey we got this place we're going

2358
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,450
in Fall River Massachusetts and we're

2359
01:50:22,740 --> 01:50:21,280
going out and I'm thinking mmm is that I

2360
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:22,750
wondered if it was going to be the

2361
01:50:28,530 --> 01:50:25,090
Lizzie Borden house and when we got

2362
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:28,540
there I'll tell you walking by going

2363
01:50:31,500 --> 01:50:30,010
into the room and walking by the

2364
01:50:33,300 --> 01:50:31,510
basement you know there was like a

2365
01:50:36,030 --> 01:50:33,310
basement going downstairs in the little

2366
01:50:40,350 --> 01:50:36,040
hallway and just walking by the hallway

2367
01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:40,360
I could feel just the the evil that's

2368
01:50:43,860 --> 01:50:42,460
what it felt like to me is evil coming

2369
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:43,870
up from the basement and I thought oh

2370
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:45,490
this is gonna be a wonderful night you

2371
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:50,050
know and we walked in and you know we go

2372
01:50:55,290 --> 01:50:53,410
to do that investigation and what

2373
01:50:58,050 --> 01:50:55,300
happened was I started feeling energy

2374
01:51:00,180 --> 01:50:58,060
and almost immediately in the house and

2375
01:51:01,830 --> 01:51:00,190
you know Ron's like getting really

2376
01:51:03,630 --> 01:51:01,840
frustrated with me because he's like

2377
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:03,640
come on we're not even set up we got to

2378
01:51:07,380 --> 01:51:05,440
set everything up you know and we

2379
01:51:09,570 --> 01:51:07,390
actually had some people from England

2380
01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:09,580
that were visiting some we had Gavin

2381
01:51:14,490 --> 01:51:11,260
Cromwell who was another medium

2382
01:51:16,170 --> 01:51:14,500
there was actually a television crew

2383
01:51:18,690 --> 01:51:16,180
that were coming with us you know they

2384
01:51:20,580 --> 01:51:18,700
were into doing interviews here so we

2385
01:51:21,790 --> 01:51:20,590
thats why ron chose the Lizzie Borden

2386
01:51:23,740 --> 01:51:21,800
house

2387
01:51:25,480 --> 01:51:23,750
so we get there and you know finally

2388
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:25,490
when everybody's set up you know we

2389
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:27,890
decide all the lights are out now we're

2390
01:51:32,770 --> 01:51:30,320
gonna go walk upstairs and see you know

2391
01:51:35,380 --> 01:51:32,780
what room we go into and you know we'll

2392
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:35,390
see if we can make communication now

2393
01:51:40,020 --> 01:51:38,000
when we went into this room I didn't

2394
01:51:43,150 --> 01:51:40,030
even know whose room it was had no

2395
01:51:45,940 --> 01:51:43,160
understanding of where we were in Lizzie

2396
01:51:47,050 --> 01:51:45,950
Lizzie Borden house but you know Ron's

2397
01:51:50,380 --> 01:51:47,060
like okay let's see if we can make

2398
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:50,390
communication and once again I started

2399
01:51:55,150 --> 01:51:52,250
feeling this energy you know and they

2400
01:51:57,940 --> 01:51:55,160
started ramping up and remember I told

2401
01:51:59,650 --> 01:51:57,950
you when you asked how they died

2402
01:52:02,530 --> 01:51:59,660
they're more than happy to show you

2403
01:52:04,330 --> 01:52:02,540
right so I want to say that we

2404
01:52:07,090 --> 01:52:04,340
communicated with Abby at the time which

2405
01:52:09,370 --> 01:52:07,100
is the stepmother so as I'm standing

2406
01:52:13,090 --> 01:52:09,380
there with Gavin Cromwell and Ron and

2407
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:13,100
the whole team the energy got so strong

2408
01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:14,930
and Jimmy I felt like somebody was

2409
01:52:21,550 --> 01:52:16,880
hacking me in the back of the head with

2410
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:21,560
an axe I start involuntary gasping and

2411
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:23,570
gagging I don't even know but I saw the

2412
01:52:27,820 --> 01:52:25,520
video later which I could not even look

2413
01:52:29,590 --> 01:52:27,830
at I I've seen a small snippet of it I

2414
01:52:31,390 --> 01:52:29,600
don't even want to deal with it but I

2415
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:31,400
was you know they wanted to turn the

2416
01:52:36,670 --> 01:52:33,110
lights on because it sounded like I was

2417
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:36,680
coughing up blood and the creepiest pot

2418
01:52:41,380 --> 01:52:39,890
for me was after I was channeling and I

2419
01:52:44,140 --> 01:52:41,390
went through the whole process of

2420
01:52:46,150 --> 01:52:44,150
feeling like I had been murdered I was

2421
01:52:48,580 --> 01:52:46,160
like a you know a sack of potatoes

2422
01:52:50,740 --> 01:52:48,590
falling down on the floor but when they

2423
01:52:53,860 --> 01:52:50,750
finally turned the lights on and I was

2424
01:52:55,870 --> 01:52:53,870
able to regain my composure I you know

2425
01:52:58,180 --> 01:52:55,880
one was a little taken aback because he

2426
01:53:00,130 --> 01:52:58,190
looked up at the wall and in that home

2427
01:53:02,170 --> 01:53:00,140
the woman had done a great job of

2428
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:02,180
putting all the murder photos in there

2429
01:53:09,370 --> 01:53:06,050
on the walls and the position that Abby

2430
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:09,380
was laying was the exact same position I

2431
01:53:14,740 --> 01:53:11,690
was in on the floor right below the

2432
01:53:17,110 --> 01:53:14,750
picture and the you know in the fact

2433
01:53:19,690 --> 01:53:17,120
that she was there and you saw her her

2434
01:53:23,170 --> 01:53:19,700
death in other words right there she was

2435
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:23,180
killed in her bed yes right and he was

2436
01:53:29,410 --> 01:53:26,210
in the bedroom and he was killed on the

2437
01:53:32,650 --> 01:53:29,420
couch yes and then if your downstairs

2438
01:53:35,620 --> 01:53:32,660
into that living room they literally

2439
01:53:39,070 --> 01:53:35,630
have the exact green velvet couch right

2440
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:39,080
is there I'm looking at did you did you

2441
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:42,080
sit on the count yes oh man okay let's

2442
01:53:46,300 --> 01:53:44,690
go back to the bedroom I'm looking at

2443
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:46,310
the bedroom here and you're right

2444
01:53:51,790 --> 01:53:48,650
they've got all the crime-scene photos

2445
01:53:54,490 --> 01:53:51,800
of the dresser how creepy is that and so

2446
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:54,500
is that and that's the original that

2447
01:53:59,590 --> 01:53:57,679
that's the same bed you know it probably

2448
01:54:02,110 --> 01:53:59,600
is I mean I know this woman has done a

2449
01:54:04,330 --> 01:54:02,120
great job of recreating and if it wasn't

2450
01:54:07,030 --> 01:54:04,340
I think she just you know might have

2451
01:54:08,890 --> 01:54:07,040
refurbished it to get it back to you

2452
01:54:11,620 --> 01:54:08,900
know the state to be usable but also

2453
01:54:11,979 --> 01:54:11,630
some of the original pieces right all

2454
01:54:14,129 --> 01:54:11,989
right

2455
01:54:17,169 --> 01:54:14,139
yeah I'm looking at the photos here that

2456
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:17,179
it reminds me of the bedroom of what I

2457
01:54:21,610 --> 01:54:19,610
just described to you where the the door

2458
01:54:23,620 --> 01:54:21,620
open right it's all it's done the same

2459
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:23,630
way right all the antiques are there

2460
01:54:29,379 --> 01:54:26,690
right yeah okay but so back to the

2461
01:54:31,870 --> 01:54:29,389
bedroom what happened well you know we

2462
01:54:34,090 --> 01:54:31,880
communicated with Abby we have the

2463
01:54:36,129 --> 01:54:34,100
videos and and really that's what

2464
01:54:37,810 --> 01:54:36,139
happened in that room right is going

2465
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:37,820
through channeling her and feeling her

2466
01:54:41,740 --> 01:54:40,010
death and that just was a you know Ron

2467
01:54:44,669 --> 01:54:41,750
and I ended up tussling which is

2468
01:54:46,959 --> 01:54:44,679
sometimes happens because he tries to

2469
01:54:49,419 --> 01:54:46,969
you know there are times when let's say

2470
01:54:52,660 --> 01:54:49,429
I'm flailing around and he's trying to

2471
01:54:54,700 --> 01:54:52,670
get me keep me from getting hurt and so

2472
01:54:56,740 --> 01:54:54,710
in that moment you know I think I kind

2473
01:55:01,209 --> 01:54:56,750
of kicked him somewhere where wasn't

2474
01:55:05,229 --> 01:55:03,340
but no it you know I think everybody

2475
01:55:07,450 --> 01:55:05,239
there was a little bit done taken aback

2476
01:55:09,370 --> 01:55:07,460
because they weren't you know they were

2477
01:55:11,649 --> 01:55:09,380
not expecting to have that happen and

2478
01:55:15,550 --> 01:55:11,659
they they were swearing that they could

2479
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:15,560
hear the liquid hit the floor so I don't

2480
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:17,570
know what was going on at the time I was

2481
01:55:23,439 --> 01:55:20,330
in and out of it but it wasn't you know

2482
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:23,449
and so many times today in fact we did a

2483
01:55:28,810 --> 01:55:27,170
talk at one of the colleges and Ron said

2484
01:55:30,850 --> 01:55:28,820
to me um are we and I'm just gonna put a

2485
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:30,860
couple of videos in there and I thought

2486
01:55:34,689 --> 01:55:32,570
what are you doing

2487
01:55:37,660 --> 01:55:34,699
and I don't like watching the videos

2488
01:55:41,260 --> 01:55:37,670
Jimmy I can't I have a very difficult

2489
01:55:44,590 --> 01:55:41,270
time seeing myself Channel yeah yeah

2490
01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:44,600
what happened we've got about two

2491
01:55:48,490 --> 01:55:46,270
minutes before the break what happened

2492
01:55:48,770 --> 01:55:48,500
anything happened down on the living or

2493
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:48,780
more

2494
01:55:56,780 --> 01:55:52,290
the father was killed well what happened

2495
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:56,790
downstairs is Ron and I um I tell you I

2496
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:00,000
came close they as far as her recreation

2497
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:02,490
she had a basket in the kitchen right

2498
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:03,930
next to the living room where the father

2499
01:56:09,020 --> 01:56:06,450
had been and there was an axe she put an

2500
01:56:10,820 --> 01:56:09,030
axe in the basket okay right so I'm

2501
01:56:13,370 --> 01:56:10,830
standing there and I start feeling this

2502
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:13,380
energy and Ron's looking at me and

2503
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:16,290
honest to god Jimmy if I had to walk out

2504
01:56:19,390 --> 01:56:17,490
of the house because I thought I was

2505
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:19,400
going to pick up the axe and use it and

2506
01:56:28,130 --> 01:56:22,410
it was as if I was I don't know if I was

2507
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:28,140
you know what you just say yeah well you

2508
01:56:31,850 --> 01:56:29,610
know how I said you're feeling the

2509
01:56:34,460 --> 01:56:31,860
energy of the spirit that was there yeah

2510
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:34,470
and I I don't know if it was Libby

2511
01:56:39,590 --> 01:56:36,330
Borden that I was picking up on but I

2512
01:56:43,340 --> 01:56:39,600
seriously had the urge to pick up the

2513
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:43,350
axe and use it on Ron and I thought oh

2514
01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:45,330
my god like I was holding my hands in my

2515
01:56:48,620 --> 01:56:46,800
pocket trying you know and it was

2516
01:56:50,750 --> 01:56:48,630
horrible because it was this like I

2517
01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:50,760
never had that feeling I know I'm not

2518
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:52,080
someone who's gonna go murder somebody

2519
01:56:56,990 --> 01:56:53,130
but I kid you not

2520
01:57:04,220 --> 01:56:57,000
that's what it felt like I'm just

2521
01:57:06,500 --> 01:57:04,230
absorbing your words how do you how do

2522
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:06,510
you deal with that I mean I'm sitting

2523
01:57:14,300 --> 01:57:09,690
here dealing with it as you tell me but

2524
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:14,310
at that moment it's kind of like you

2525
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:17,490
know I'm thinking like Jack Nicholson in

2526
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:19,050
the shining right where he is just

2527
01:57:23,780 --> 01:57:21,810
absolutely possessed he's no longer in

2528
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:23,790
control of himself and that's the

2529
01:57:30,230 --> 01:57:27,450
frightening part about this for you how

2530
01:57:33,700 --> 01:57:30,240
do you how do you how did you you know

2531
01:57:36,830 --> 01:57:33,710
keep control what do you do you know I

2532
01:57:39,050 --> 01:57:36,840
try to I really have not been in that

2533
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:39,060
situation other than you know sometimes

2534
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:41,490
in certain situations if the spirit is

2535
01:57:45,620 --> 01:57:43,890
angry with Ron let's say first you know

2536
01:57:48,950 --> 01:57:45,630
and if you know Ron and people who have

2537
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:48,960
heard Ron he can get really you know he

2538
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:50,850
does it jokingly or he tries to get

2539
01:57:55,130 --> 01:57:52,890
communication going but there's times

2540
01:57:56,540 --> 01:57:55,140
where I just want to strike them and I'm

2541
01:57:58,280 --> 01:57:56,550
thinking oh my goodness like it's the

2542
01:58:01,340 --> 01:57:58,290
Spirit is coming through and there's

2543
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:01,350
times I've dislocated his finger or he

2544
01:58:04,250 --> 01:58:02,250
had open answer

2545
01:58:05,870 --> 01:58:04,260
we were wrestling on the ground and he

2546
01:58:07,850 --> 01:58:05,880
ended up getting hurt and I would never

2547
01:58:08,750 --> 01:58:07,860
myself do that to hurt him it just

2548
01:58:12,050 --> 01:58:08,760
happens

2549
01:58:14,330 --> 01:58:12,060
right and as far as control I'll try to

2550
01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:14,340
push the spirit out or I will physically

2551
01:58:19,250 --> 01:58:16,260
walk backwards like trying to get away

2552
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:19,260
from him and Ron knows this the telltale

2553
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:22,410
signs to you know that maybe just back

2554
01:58:29,110 --> 01:58:25,770
off you know and not come too close do

2555
01:58:32,750 --> 01:58:29,120
you think like you know it's a bed and

2556
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:32,760
bread and breakfast now is is it a good

2557
01:58:37,250 --> 01:58:35,370
idea to stay there and is there a lot of

2558
01:58:40,250 --> 01:58:37,260
bad experiences or people just there for

2559
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:40,260
the thrill you know it used to I don't

2560
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:42,210
even know if it still is I think she's

2561
01:58:46,910 --> 01:58:44,970
let different investigative teams stay

2562
01:58:49,390 --> 01:58:46,920
there but it used to be a bed and

2563
01:58:53,090 --> 01:58:49,400
breakfast I don't think it is anymore

2564
01:58:54,170 --> 01:58:53,100
but you know I think that a lot of

2565
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:54,180
people have had different experiences

2566
01:58:59,090 --> 01:58:57,690
you know like they would have covers and

2567
01:59:00,770 --> 01:58:59,100
things moved off their legs in the bed

2568
01:59:03,530 --> 01:59:00,780
or the rock and cheers we'd be moving

2569
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:03,540
objects would be moving inside they'd

2570
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:04,410
hear voices

2571
01:59:09,620 --> 01:59:06,810
you know the coming from the rafters in

2572
01:59:11,930 --> 01:59:09,630
the certain rooms doors would open and

2573
01:59:14,420 --> 01:59:11,940
close by themselves you know she even

2574
01:59:16,730 --> 01:59:14,430
had the same thing with you know a phone

2575
01:59:19,210 --> 01:59:16,740
call coming in and it was all sixes you

2576
01:59:21,890 --> 01:59:19,220
know she's she's had many different

2577
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:21,900
really strange events that have occurred

2578
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:24,960
in that house it's uh it's it's bigger

2579
01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:28,170
than I remembered you know I always

2580
01:59:32,570 --> 01:59:30,000
picture the front of the house but no it

2581
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:32,580
is actually a pretty good size all right

2582
01:59:36,650 --> 01:59:34,170
let's take a break right here our guest

2583
01:59:40,290 --> 01:59:36,660
tonight Maureen wood we're talking ghost

2584
01:59:42,839 --> 01:59:40,300
stories from her new book mower goes

2585
01:59:44,490 --> 01:59:42,849
I'm your host Jimmy Church and we'll be

2586
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:44,500
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welcome back fade to black I'm in

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history Church night two of our

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Halloween week Maureen wood is here

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we're talking ghost stories from her new

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book with Ron Kolak I'm holding it up to

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the camera more ghost chronicles and

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02:05:03,609 --> 02:04:59,300
Maureen do you think that some of these

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02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:03,619
locations are just over investigated you

2704
02:05:10,180 --> 02:05:08,090
know I do sometimes right and I think

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02:05:12,699 --> 02:05:10,190
that sometimes after you have it

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02:05:15,790 --> 02:05:12,709
investigated you have a lot more spirits

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02:05:18,009 --> 02:05:15,800
there than where before whether someone

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02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:18,019
has brought some in whether the

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02:05:22,149 --> 02:05:20,090
intention of them being there you might

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02:05:23,109 --> 02:05:22,159
have you know have almost as if it's got

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02:05:25,689 --> 02:05:23,119
a life of its own

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02:05:28,180 --> 02:05:25,699
right you know and zak bagans was just

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02:05:31,029 --> 02:05:28,190
there and and you know it made some

2714
02:05:35,799 --> 02:05:31,039
things angry will teach the next true

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02:05:38,709 --> 02:05:35,809
that comes in here yeah so yeah you have

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02:05:43,779 --> 02:05:38,719
often thought about that and but this

2717
02:05:46,799 --> 02:05:43,789
book these are locations that I haven't

2718
02:05:51,069 --> 02:05:46,809
heard about before like the New London

2719
02:05:53,620 --> 02:05:51,079
ledge lighthouse and and I again I have

2720
02:05:55,810 --> 02:05:53,630
that story I'll hold it up I have that

2721
02:05:57,790 --> 02:05:55,820
one earmarked too as well

2722
02:06:00,939 --> 02:05:57,800
what happened there tell us about it

2723
02:06:03,189 --> 02:06:00,949
well the New London ledge lighthouse and

2724
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:03,199
that was really was very interesting

2725
02:06:08,949 --> 02:06:06,650
right because we went out into to go

2726
02:06:11,979 --> 02:06:08,959
dropped out from a boat now it actually

2727
02:06:13,899 --> 02:06:11,989
won an Emmy for the American Builder

2728
02:06:15,310 --> 02:06:13,909
show so what happened is originally I

2729
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:15,320
don't know if you're familiar with the

2730
02:06:22,149 --> 02:06:19,360
American Builder shows on in like 2009

2731
02:06:24,430 --> 02:06:22,159
2008 or something like that and what it

2732
02:06:27,399 --> 02:06:24,440
was was Jimmy like a construction worker

2733
02:06:29,350 --> 02:06:27,409
and you know he wanted to go out and

2734
02:06:31,089 --> 02:06:29,360
have a Halloween experience and he

2735
02:06:33,279 --> 02:06:31,099
wanted to be you know go out with an

2736
02:06:35,529 --> 02:06:33,289
investigative team out and be dropped

2737
02:06:38,259 --> 02:06:35,539
off on an island or a lighthouse

2738
02:06:40,089 --> 02:06:38,269
overnight and see what if there's

2739
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:40,099
anything was going to happen you know so

2740
02:06:45,609 --> 02:06:42,530
it was like scared Jimmy that's pretty

2741
02:06:47,410 --> 02:06:45,619
much what it was so we all went together

2742
02:06:51,339 --> 02:06:47,420
they picked the New London ledge

2743
02:06:54,250 --> 02:06:51,349
lighthouse to go to and I in Connecticut

2744
02:06:57,010 --> 02:06:54,260
and so we went to this lighthouse

2745
02:06:59,530 --> 02:06:57,020
dropped off and you know we get there

2746
02:07:01,180 --> 02:06:59,540
and it's very ominous anyway right so

2747
02:07:03,430 --> 02:07:01,190
know if you see a picture of it you look

2748
02:07:06,940 --> 02:07:03,440
at it and it is it's this little house

2749
02:07:09,340 --> 02:07:06,950
like right out in obviously in the ocean

2750
02:07:12,100 --> 02:07:09,350
right so we get dropped off the night

2751
02:07:13,900 --> 02:07:12,110
set starts off pretty you know pretty

2752
02:07:15,940 --> 02:07:13,910
blasé I'd say hey you know we're walking

2753
02:07:18,970 --> 02:07:15,950
around we go in the basement we think we

2754
02:07:21,970 --> 02:07:18,980
got a little bit of communication but

2755
02:07:24,670 --> 02:07:21,980
not too much and what happened is it

2756
02:07:26,950 --> 02:07:24,680
started going a little bit darker at

2757
02:07:29,590 --> 02:07:26,960
night it gets a little bit later one of

2758
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:29,600
the EVP specialists at the time Karen

2759
02:07:36,670 --> 02:07:32,330
Massey went out with Jimmy and they went

2760
02:07:40,330 --> 02:07:36,680
out to the outside of the lighthouse let

2761
02:07:42,700 --> 02:07:40,340
me just jump in here this is this place

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02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:42,710
is haunted I mean you know it you know

2763
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:45,050
it pulling up in the okay so I'm gonna

2764
02:07:51,460 --> 02:07:49,090
describe this to everybody this is

2765
02:07:54,700 --> 02:07:51,470
sitting out in the middle of the water

2766
02:07:58,330 --> 02:07:54,710
by itself it's not on land it's

2767
02:08:03,520 --> 02:07:58,340
surrounded by concrete and it's a it's a

2768
02:08:06,210 --> 02:08:03,530
three storey house painted red of all

2769
02:08:10,350 --> 02:08:06,220
things and then with a little Lighthouse

2770
02:08:13,300 --> 02:08:10,360
on the top of it it's not your typical

2771
02:08:15,610 --> 02:08:13,310
lighthouse that you see on you know that

2772
02:08:19,330 --> 02:08:15,620
that we're all familiar with this thing

2773
02:08:22,420 --> 02:08:19,340
is is crazy I mean that's you know going

2774
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:22,430
there that it's right right well

2775
02:08:27,310 --> 02:08:25,490
absolutely and you know the legend you

2776
02:08:30,730 --> 02:08:27,320
know there was it was built in the 1900s

2777
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:30,740
early 1900s right so the legend was that

2778
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:32,960
the wife of Ernie the lighthouse keeper

2779
02:08:38,170 --> 02:08:35,330
had run off with the captain of Block

2780
02:08:40,540 --> 02:08:38,180
Island Ferry and because he was in so

2781
02:08:42,940 --> 02:08:40,550
distraught over it you know the the

2782
02:08:46,540 --> 02:08:42,950
rumor was Ernie jumped from the roof of

2783
02:08:49,630 --> 02:08:46,550
the lighthouse and died now we didn't

2784
02:08:53,020 --> 02:08:49,640
come across Ernie but I will say that we

2785
02:08:55,900 --> 02:08:53,030
ended up doing a seance upstairs in I

2786
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:55,910
think well like the third bit on the

2787
02:08:59,320 --> 02:08:57,290
third floor in the bedroom on the

2788
02:09:03,670 --> 02:08:59,330
right-hand side right so we were there

2789
02:09:06,370 --> 02:09:03,680
with Jimmy we had EVP specialists we had

2790
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:06,380
a Ouija board that Ron had brought with

2791
02:09:10,959 --> 02:09:07,570
him

2792
02:09:14,229 --> 02:09:10,969
yeah oh my god let me tell you so the

2793
02:09:16,479 --> 02:09:14,239
they had base camp set up and we had you

2794
02:09:18,700 --> 02:09:16,489
know they had the cameras going and

2795
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:18,710
usually when you as you know when you

2796
02:09:23,170 --> 02:09:20,570
have paranormal activity and the spirit

2797
02:09:25,750 --> 02:09:23,180
starts coming in stronger what happens

2798
02:09:28,270 --> 02:09:25,760
right it affects the the broadcast or it

2799
02:09:30,910 --> 02:09:28,280
affects the you know television monitors

2800
02:09:32,830 --> 02:09:30,920
and everything's static right so you

2801
02:09:34,540 --> 02:09:32,840
start getting that static comes in and

2802
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:34,550
you're not getting any clearer

2803
02:09:39,550 --> 02:09:38,090
you know the clear viewing so we didn't

2804
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:39,560
know what at the time but as we were

2805
02:09:43,300 --> 02:09:41,090
communicating we were actually getting

2806
02:09:44,979 --> 02:09:43,310
EVP on their equipment that they set up

2807
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:44,989
for base camp

2808
02:09:50,290 --> 02:09:47,690
and that the you know the television

2809
02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:50,300
crew had set up because they found this

2810
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:52,190
later when they went back and reviewed

2811
02:09:57,100 --> 02:09:55,370
all the the recordings so what we did

2812
02:09:59,950 --> 02:09:57,110
get though while we're sitting there and

2813
02:10:01,630 --> 02:09:59,960
we were using the Ouija board was it

2814
02:10:04,689 --> 02:10:01,640
seemed like a spirit of a woman came

2815
02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:04,699
through first and she wanted to know why

2816
02:10:09,850 --> 02:10:06,560
we were there and she was trying to

2817
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:09,860
figure out what was going on and you

2818
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:12,050
know since you you investigate Jimmy you

2819
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:14,000
know this other spirit came in and it

2820
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:16,130
was a man spirit and he was a little bit

2821
02:10:20,770 --> 02:10:17,930
more adamant that he wanted to come

2822
02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:20,780
through and he was he was angry and he

2823
02:10:25,180 --> 02:10:22,910
did say no I didn't know anything at the

2824
02:10:27,459 --> 02:10:25,190
time about any the rumor of somebody

2825
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:27,469
jumping off the top of the lighthouse

2826
02:10:32,979 --> 02:10:30,290
but he did say in other words that he

2827
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:32,989
was a worker there that had been sitting

2828
02:10:37,150 --> 02:10:34,730
up on the top of the lighthouse it got

2829
02:10:41,229 --> 02:10:37,160
locked out and he someone locked him out

2830
02:10:43,270 --> 02:10:41,239
and he fell to his death now there was

2831
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:43,280
no there's been no reports if he did

2832
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:45,290
research there's no lighthouse keeper

2833
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:47,690
Ernie and they said you know there's no

2834
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:49,730
report of somebody that had died coming

2835
02:10:53,140 --> 02:10:51,170
off the lighthouse but in that time

2836
02:10:54,580 --> 02:10:53,150
period if it was a worker it may not

2837
02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:54,590
have been talked about it might have

2838
02:10:58,600 --> 02:10:57,410
been you know hidden it wasn't something

2839
02:11:01,110 --> 02:10:58,610
that they were going to you know make a

2840
02:11:06,790 --> 02:11:01,120
big deal out of right right right right

2841
02:11:09,580 --> 02:11:06,800
so but for me you know that night was it

2842
02:11:10,990 --> 02:11:09,590
was hard to deal with so let me explain

2843
02:11:13,959 --> 02:11:11,000
it this way I told you already I don't

2844
02:11:17,169 --> 02:11:13,969
like seeing myself Channel right so this

2845
02:11:19,330 --> 02:11:17,179
is on major TV we have this this video

2846
02:11:21,630 --> 02:11:19,340
and so now I'm given a CD of it right

2847
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:21,640
and my mother

2848
02:11:25,650 --> 02:11:23,890
who was at the time she when she was

2849
02:11:27,780 --> 02:11:25,660
alive was very supportive she wanted to

2850
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:27,790
see this video while I didn't want to

2851
02:11:31,260 --> 02:11:29,410
show her because I knew it would look

2852
02:11:32,850 --> 02:11:31,270
horrific of me like I it would be

2853
02:11:35,340 --> 02:11:32,860
terrifying it's terrifying for me I

2854
02:11:37,410 --> 02:11:35,350
didn't want her to see that and so I was

2855
02:11:38,820 --> 02:11:37,420
hiding the video and then Ron said to me

2856
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:38,830
more mean it's been months didn't you

2857
02:11:43,140 --> 02:11:41,770
watch that yet I'm like no he's like why

2858
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:43,150
don't you just watch it well sure enough

2859
02:11:48,930 --> 02:11:45,370
nobody's home one day I go to watch it

2860
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:48,940
my mother stops in and I'm like oh so

2861
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:50,320
she walks and she was like oh I'm so

2862
02:11:55,170 --> 02:11:52,210
excited we can watch it together I'm

2863
02:11:57,570 --> 02:11:55,180
like yay right so she sits down beside

2864
02:12:00,900 --> 02:11:57,580
me and that pot came on that I was

2865
02:12:03,570 --> 02:12:00,910
channeling that spirit and again it

2866
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:03,580
wasn't a pretty sight and my mother just

2867
02:12:06,660 --> 02:12:04,930
looked at me she didn't even couldn't

2868
02:12:08,610 --> 02:12:06,670
even look at me at that time she put her

2869
02:12:10,500 --> 02:12:08,620
hand on my thigh and she squeezed it and

2870
02:12:12,870 --> 02:12:10,510
I could see her stiffen like her whole

2871
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:12,880
body demeanor changed and she looked at

2872
02:12:17,970 --> 02:12:14,970
me and she just said I'm afraid for you

2873
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:17,980
and I just felt so bad you know and I

2874
02:12:20,370 --> 02:12:19,810
said you know I'm fine mom really I'm

2875
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:20,380
okay

2876
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:22,930
and she's like that's horrible mommy and

2877
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:25,360
that's horrible I'm like I know I know

2878
02:12:30,930 --> 02:12:28,090
but you know Jimmy the stuff that

2879
02:12:32,730 --> 02:12:30,940
happened not just that night when we

2880
02:12:35,220 --> 02:12:32,740
investigated but you know how you say

2881
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:35,230
does this happen do you bring spirits

2882
02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:36,490
like you say you bring spirits home

2883
02:12:42,510 --> 02:12:39,490
right the crew that had investigated

2884
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:42,520
took all their tapes and their

2885
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:44,770
information and recordings back to the

2886
02:12:48,060 --> 02:12:46,450
studio as they would have to cut the

2887
02:12:52,110 --> 02:12:48,070
clips and make it work and put it

2888
02:12:54,180 --> 02:12:52,120
together well I guess something happened

2889
02:12:56,630 --> 02:12:54,190
at the studio every time they were

2890
02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:56,640
trying to run those pieces of that night

2891
02:13:02,340 --> 02:12:59,440
the lights went out the generator had a

2892
02:13:04,290 --> 02:13:02,350
problem there was like issues at the

2893
02:13:06,810 --> 02:13:04,300
station so much so that the people

2894
02:13:09,540 --> 02:13:06,820
refused to go inside to the studio when

2895
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:09,550
they were running it they didn't want it

2896
02:13:14,910 --> 02:13:12,010
and then when they play this people were

2897
02:13:16,890 --> 02:13:14,920
calling in from their home saying oh my

2898
02:13:18,690 --> 02:13:16,900
god this is terrifying I can't believe

2899
02:13:21,500 --> 02:13:18,700
that you showed this on TV when's the

2900
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:21,510
next time you're gonna do it again I

2901
02:13:28,140 --> 02:13:25,330
just posted pictures of it and it's it's

2902
02:13:32,879 --> 02:13:28,150
funny the the first reaction was oh

2903
02:13:36,450 --> 02:13:32,889
sweet baby Jesus that place up on it

2904
02:13:38,700 --> 02:13:36,460
and you know and you look at it what was

2905
02:13:42,629 --> 02:13:38,710
it like when you pull up you know to the

2906
02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:42,639
boat and and step on to this structure I

2907
02:13:53,970 --> 02:13:49,360
mean that I mean it just looks I mean

2908
02:13:55,859 --> 02:13:53,980
what could go wrong and that's the thing

2909
02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:55,869
you know the boats gone it's not like

2910
02:14:01,439 --> 02:13:58,239
you have a boat no you can't right no

2911
02:14:03,540 --> 02:14:01,449
you can't run right nowhere to go and so

2912
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:03,550
at night when it got really crazy I'm

2913
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:06,159
thinking now where do I go right like I

2914
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:07,210
have nowhere to go

2915
02:14:10,890 --> 02:14:09,250
it's not like and I could go outside if

2916
02:14:12,899 --> 02:14:10,900
I wanted but that didn't make me feel

2917
02:14:15,750 --> 02:14:12,909
any better because as I was saying

2918
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:15,760
before like Karen the EVP specialists

2919
02:14:21,300 --> 02:14:18,010
went with Jimmy outside and there had

2920
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:21,310
been a story that a boat and you know in

2921
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:23,530
in the history of the lighthouse a boat

2922
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:26,170
head smashed up against the lighthouse

2923
02:14:31,050 --> 02:14:29,440
and broken up and they had the woman had

2924
02:14:33,390 --> 02:14:31,060
passed away and I guess she was brought

2925
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:33,400
up up on top of with a the cement

2926
02:14:38,550 --> 02:14:36,730
structure is and you know they don't you

2927
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:38,560
know they believe that protect she might

2928
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:40,090
be the spirit that is haunting that

2929
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:42,610
location as well well Karen had gotten

2930
02:14:48,090 --> 02:14:45,280
an EVP that when you play it it's just

2931
02:14:51,720 --> 02:14:48,100
you hear her this this haunting sound

2932
02:14:54,570 --> 02:14:51,730
saying I'm cold and that's what you hear

2933
02:14:56,189 --> 02:14:54,580
is the I'm cold and it's like like it

2934
02:14:57,870 --> 02:14:56,199
just you know it really is

2935
02:15:01,410 --> 02:14:57,880
heart-wrenching to hear that

2936
02:15:03,570 --> 02:15:01,420
and you know and guess what with Jimmy

2937
02:15:05,669 --> 02:15:03,580
like so now Ron and we had the radio

2938
02:15:08,939 --> 02:15:05,679
show at the time right we're on this

2939
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:08,949
local station wcm where we're after this

2940
02:15:14,010 --> 02:15:11,530
is all done you know Jimmy comes on the

2941
02:15:15,209 --> 02:15:14,020
radio show with another person that was

2942
02:15:18,450 --> 02:15:15,219
on the investigation

2943
02:15:21,060 --> 02:15:18,460
Ron and I are talking to him and guess

2944
02:15:23,580 --> 02:15:21,070
what happens as we're talking about it

2945
02:15:25,530 --> 02:15:23,590
we're asking Jimmy his thoughts and by

2946
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:25,540
now Jimmy was like oh my god like he

2947
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:27,130
didn't want to feel like he wasn't a big

2948
02:15:31,859 --> 02:15:29,530
man right he wanted us to say he was you

2949
02:15:33,870 --> 02:15:31,869
know I was strong I wasn't nervous and I

2950
02:15:36,090 --> 02:15:33,880
said well that's fine you know that's

2951
02:15:37,020 --> 02:15:36,100
okay and he's like well I you guys must

2952
02:15:39,300 --> 02:15:37,030
have done something I don't know if I

2953
02:15:41,970 --> 02:15:39,310
believe in it and all of a sudden in the

2954
02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:41,980
radio station it was like a foghorn went

2955
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:44,230
off like like you had a foghorn for the

2956
02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:45,610
lighthouse

2957
02:15:50,070 --> 02:15:48,130
just bleared in the radio station the

2958
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:50,080
guy who was doing the electronics the

2959
02:15:52,800 --> 02:15:51,730
board's he's like all confused like

2960
02:15:55,380 --> 02:15:52,810
where did that come from

2961
02:15:57,300 --> 02:15:55,390
and Jimmy and the person on the phone

2962
02:16:00,540 --> 02:15:57,310
thought that we set it up and that we

2963
02:16:02,430 --> 02:16:00,550
put that foghorn on as a part of an

2964
02:16:06,030 --> 02:16:02,440
effect which we don't even know where it

2965
02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:06,040
came from what happened to you you step

2966
02:16:11,190 --> 02:16:09,040
off the boat and you you you climb up

2967
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:11,200
you've got to go upstairs and stuff and

2968
02:16:17,790 --> 02:16:14,800
you and you start to what do I mean what

2969
02:16:20,990 --> 02:16:17,800
happened I mean things just must have

2970
02:16:23,820 --> 02:16:21,000
gone crazy there take us through that

2971
02:16:25,290 --> 02:16:23,830
yeah it's you know you you go up the

2972
02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:25,300
stairs and you know it was very ominous

2973
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:27,250
right so you're walking up the stairs

2974
02:16:30,690 --> 02:16:28,810
it's now pitch-black at night

2975
02:16:32,390 --> 02:16:30,700
everybody's behind you you got the you

2976
02:16:36,510 --> 02:16:32,400
know the television crews going there

2977
02:16:39,150 --> 02:16:36,520
and as we're walking into this room you

2978
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:39,160
know it's almost as if someone sitting

2979
02:16:43,081 --> 02:16:41,170
in the corner you know like just waiting

2980
02:16:46,260 --> 02:16:43,091
you could feel like you're being watched

2981
02:16:48,930 --> 02:16:46,270
the whole time you know and we had

2982
02:16:51,810 --> 02:16:48,940
everybody doing the EVPs and we're going

2983
02:16:53,970 --> 02:16:51,820
around and you know for a while you know

2984
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:53,980
we thought oh well let's check out the

2985
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:55,570
rest of the place you know we're going

2986
02:16:59,220 --> 02:16:57,130
to go around the rest of the building so

2987
02:17:00,930 --> 02:16:59,230
we we walked away for the moment from

2988
02:17:03,541 --> 02:17:00,940
that room where we had done the Ouija

2989
02:17:06,660 --> 02:17:03,551
board and we went to where you'd go up

2990
02:17:07,831 --> 02:17:06,670
to the top of the lighthouse and we

2991
02:17:10,380 --> 02:17:07,841
walked up these smalls

2992
02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:10,390
you know circular stairs and at one

2993
02:17:15,690 --> 02:17:13,330
point you know we had a stop because the

2994
02:17:18,690 --> 02:17:15,700
energy got so strong and it almost is as

2995
02:17:21,180 --> 02:17:18,700
if I was losing my balance like I

2996
02:17:22,710 --> 02:17:21,190
couldn't stay standing straight up like

2997
02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:22,720
I thought I was gonna fall down the

2998
02:17:26,730 --> 02:17:25,180
stairs I thought I was gonna fall out of

2999
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:26,740
something and Ron was getting a little

3000
02:17:29,130 --> 02:17:27,250
nervous

3001
02:17:30,750 --> 02:17:29,140
because it had like a little opening

3002
02:17:33,780 --> 02:17:30,760
like a hatch in a little hatch door

3003
02:17:36,420 --> 02:17:33,790
right and so you know Jimmy's looking at

3004
02:17:38,041 --> 02:17:36,430
me you know he was with us Ron was

3005
02:17:39,780 --> 02:17:38,051
getting extremely nervous and I was

3006
02:17:41,791 --> 02:17:39,790
getting very uncomfortable because I'm

3007
02:17:43,710 --> 02:17:41,801
thinking you know dear God it's the

3008
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:43,720
beginning of the night you know we

3009
02:17:48,060 --> 02:17:46,000
hadn't even gotten into doing the Ouija

3010
02:17:49,860 --> 02:17:48,070
board we haven't even gotten into doing

3011
02:17:51,420 --> 02:17:49,870
any heavy communication in fact the

3012
02:17:53,640 --> 02:17:51,430
lights was still like it was still light

3013
02:17:57,180 --> 02:17:53,650
oh it was still you know the Sun was

3014
02:17:58,750 --> 02:17:57,190
just setting and I thought oh my god I'm

3015
02:18:01,900 --> 02:17:58,760
in for a long night

3016
02:18:04,240 --> 02:18:01,910
you know and so that to me is where it

3017
02:18:06,490 --> 02:18:04,250
really you know escalated that night

3018
02:18:10,450 --> 02:18:06,500
when we got into that room and Ron

3019
02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:10,460
pulled out the Ouija board so okay

3020
02:18:17,650 --> 02:18:14,450
there's got to be a crazy Ouija board

3021
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:17,660
situation what happened there well you

3022
02:18:22,269 --> 02:18:20,000
know we he sets the weeds Ouija board up

3023
02:18:23,860 --> 02:18:22,279
and you know we're just asking and that

3024
02:18:25,419 --> 02:18:23,870
was you know I actually saw it today

3025
02:18:27,969 --> 02:18:25,429
kind of for the first time watching the

3026
02:18:30,700 --> 02:18:27,979
little snippet of the video as we were

3027
02:18:32,650 --> 02:18:30,710
communicating with this spirit I'm over

3028
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:32,660
there saying you know he's telling us to

3029
02:18:36,730 --> 02:18:35,090
go he's telling us to go we have to he

3030
02:18:40,089 --> 02:18:36,740
wants us out of here he wants us to

3031
02:18:42,099 --> 02:18:40,099
leave and at the same time you know

3032
02:18:43,870 --> 02:18:42,109
later when they dubbed it they said you

3033
02:18:46,990 --> 02:18:43,880
could see that the electronics were

3034
02:18:49,469 --> 02:18:47,000
going fuzzy on the cameras and it

3035
02:18:51,790 --> 02:18:49,479
actually says unbeknownst to the

3036
02:18:56,110 --> 02:18:51,800
investigators the words that she was

3037
02:18:57,879 --> 02:18:56,120
saying are repeated in the EVP so you

3038
02:19:01,089 --> 02:18:57,889
could hear in the background it was like

3039
02:19:03,490 --> 02:19:01,099
go go and you know that was really the

3040
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:03,500
beginning of communicating with that

3041
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:07,130
spirit you know it what happened is I

3042
02:19:11,290 --> 02:19:09,439
was holding Jimmy's hand in Ron's hand

3043
02:19:13,540 --> 02:19:11,300
and I didn't even know how hard I was

3044
02:19:15,610 --> 02:19:13,550
holding their hands as you know for us

3045
02:19:17,080 --> 02:19:15,620
we did the Ouija board then we decided

3046
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:17,090
to stop with the Ouija board because we

3047
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:18,800
already had communication so I had their

3048
02:19:24,969 --> 02:19:22,010
hands held and I don't remember a lot

3049
02:19:28,089 --> 02:19:24,979
after that what happened when town but I

3050
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:28,099
looked at the video today and it was

3051
02:19:32,349 --> 02:19:30,410
terrifying because you know Jimmy's

3052
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:32,359
fingers were purple his hands were

3053
02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:34,399
purple he said I have not he says my

3054
02:19:39,129 --> 02:19:37,010
hands were tingling that it was crazy

3055
02:19:41,950 --> 02:19:39,139
and someone's like your hands are blue

3056
02:19:44,500 --> 02:19:41,960
you know when Ron was saying the same

3057
02:19:46,780 --> 02:19:44,510
thing you know that you know he couldn't

3058
02:19:49,179 --> 02:19:46,790
believe that how strong the energy was

3059
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:49,189
at that time and how all of us just like

3060
02:19:53,889 --> 02:19:51,170
I started pushing back and trying to get

3061
02:19:55,690 --> 02:19:53,899
away I ended up in the recess of the

3062
02:19:57,880 --> 02:19:55,700
attic almost it's kind of like an attic

3063
02:19:59,260 --> 02:19:57,890
room and I was in the back of it like I

3064
02:20:02,500 --> 02:19:59,270
was I was just trying to get away from

3065
02:20:04,139 --> 02:20:02,510
everybody so it was a I don't know it

3066
02:20:06,880 --> 02:20:04,149
just was one of the harder

3067
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:06,890
investigations that we had done does

3068
02:20:12,250 --> 02:20:10,160
anybody live there now I don't believe

3069
02:20:14,290 --> 02:20:12,260
anybody in fact I don't think many

3070
02:20:17,590 --> 02:20:14,300
lighthouses amande at this time right

3071
02:20:21,790 --> 02:20:17,600
with is their furniture or anything like

3072
02:20:23,260 --> 02:20:21,800
that there's there's empty rooms you

3073
02:20:25,809 --> 02:20:23,270
know there's no really furniture but

3074
02:20:28,480 --> 02:20:25,819
down in the first floor there were like

3075
02:20:31,480 --> 02:20:28,490
almost pews that you would find you know

3076
02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:31,490
benches that were these big in fact I

3077
02:20:35,889 --> 02:20:33,680
remember those because during the night

3078
02:20:37,900 --> 02:20:35,899
when we're trying to get you know just

3079
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:37,910
close our eyes for five minutes

3080
02:20:43,050 --> 02:20:40,010
I'd go down in that room and that seemed

3081
02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:43,060
to be the one room that was not as heavy

3082
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:47,090
the energy wasn't as you know like

3083
02:20:51,160 --> 02:20:49,250
reaching out trying to grab you it was a

3084
02:20:53,349 --> 02:20:51,170
little bit less intense so it was one of

3085
02:20:57,179 --> 02:20:53,359
the places I could go to get some rest

3086
02:21:04,540 --> 02:20:57,189
you know whoever lived there it was

3087
02:21:06,700 --> 02:21:04,550
you're bound to go crazy no no no no no

3088
02:21:11,830 --> 02:21:06,710
who would want to be out there by

3089
02:21:15,250 --> 02:21:11,840
themselves you know just a bad idea just

3090
02:21:16,769 --> 02:21:15,260
a bad idea have you have you ever seen a

3091
02:21:22,590 --> 02:21:16,779
ghost

3092
02:21:26,170 --> 02:21:22,600
when I was young I saw them all the time

3093
02:21:28,750 --> 02:21:26,180
and now when I see them I see them more

3094
02:21:31,450 --> 02:21:28,760
as I it's almost like I glimpse them you

3095
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:31,460
know I get a quick snapshot of what I

3096
02:21:36,969 --> 02:21:34,090
see or it seems like they almost shimmer

3097
02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:36,979
but I when I was younger I could see

3098
02:21:41,679 --> 02:21:39,439
them as if I was looking at someone else

3099
02:21:44,950 --> 02:21:41,689
you know that was physical standing in

3100
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:44,960
front of me what yeah what about Ron and

3101
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:47,450
when you guys are out doing you know

3102
02:21:54,519 --> 02:21:51,050
because he's the skeptic has has he ever

3103
02:21:57,550 --> 02:21:54,529
seen anything he has actually and you

3104
02:22:00,510 --> 02:21:57,560
know he started off a real skeptic and

3105
02:22:05,620 --> 02:22:00,520
even though he he tries to keep you know

3106
02:22:07,179 --> 02:22:05,630
he is skeptic but not as skeptic as he

3107
02:22:10,690 --> 02:22:07,189
was when he first started if that makes

3108
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:10,700
sense because over the years all the you

3109
02:22:15,190 --> 02:22:13,310
know the information is gathered and you

3110
02:22:16,960 --> 02:22:15,200
know it gives you those aha moments and

3111
02:22:20,170 --> 02:22:16,970
you know he'll still try to remain

3112
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:20,180
scientific but yet in fact I think he

3113
02:22:24,670 --> 02:22:22,490
even sent said today that you know he's

3114
02:22:25,720 --> 02:22:24,680
the time he has seen a spirit he

3115
02:22:28,511 --> 02:22:25,730
actually saw it when we were

3116
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:28,521
investigating you know he saw it at a

3117
02:22:32,650 --> 02:22:30,530
different time that he saw a spirit and

3118
02:22:34,900 --> 02:22:32,660
he thought that you know he was doing a

3119
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:34,910
at the Portsmouth Lighthouse he was

3120
02:22:39,911 --> 02:22:37,040
actually doing a night where he brought

3121
02:22:42,131 --> 02:22:39,921
people in to do a ghost tour and while

3122
02:22:43,930 --> 02:22:42,141
he was standing there and then that

3123
02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:43,940
location they always would see a woman

3124
02:22:47,860 --> 02:22:46,250
walking on the walls right around the

3125
02:22:49,301 --> 02:22:47,870
the lighthouse in fact the Coast Guard

3126
02:22:51,190 --> 02:22:49,311
would always report seeing this woman

3127
02:22:52,751 --> 02:22:51,200
and then to go see her on the monitors

3128
02:22:54,761 --> 02:22:52,761
and then they'd go run out to see who

3129
02:22:57,490 --> 02:22:54,771
was out on the walls and nobody would be

3130
02:22:59,801 --> 02:22:57,500
there so this one night he was doing

3131
02:23:01,421 --> 02:22:59,811
this tour and when he's standing inside

3132
02:23:03,131 --> 02:23:01,431
and he's talking you know he didn't want

3133
02:23:04,211 --> 02:23:03,141
to repeat himself so he saw somebody

3134
02:23:05,740 --> 02:23:04,221
like they were walking and there was

3135
02:23:07,211 --> 02:23:05,750
windows and he's looking like waiting

3136
02:23:09,041 --> 02:23:07,221
for the person to come and the woman

3137
02:23:10,631 --> 02:23:09,051
that was standing there he was waiting

3138
02:23:12,430 --> 02:23:10,641
for her to come around and go to the

3139
02:23:13,990 --> 02:23:12,440
door and so he's waiting and waiting

3140
02:23:15,341 --> 02:23:14,000
he's like what's taking her so long so

3141
02:23:17,921 --> 02:23:15,351
he goes could you just go ask that woman

3142
02:23:20,770 --> 02:23:17,931
right there to come in and they went out

3143
02:23:22,421 --> 02:23:20,780
and said there's nobody there so you

3144
02:23:24,371 --> 02:23:22,431
know he actually was a little

3145
02:23:27,011 --> 02:23:24,381
dumbfounded because he thought wow like

3146
02:23:28,301 --> 02:23:27,021
he he saw her and so much so that he was

3147
02:23:30,341 --> 02:23:28,311
going to wait to start because he didn't

3148
02:23:33,461 --> 02:23:30,351
want to speak twice for nothing

3149
02:23:36,131 --> 02:23:33,471
but it turned out there was no one the

3150
02:23:40,081 --> 02:23:36,141
the other thing that that that freaks me

3151
02:23:43,541 --> 02:23:40,091
out and it and it's not away before

3152
02:23:46,211 --> 02:23:43,551
Annabelle or anything like that but yeah

3153
02:23:51,400 --> 02:23:46,221
you know it's dolls and and things that

3154
02:23:55,841 --> 02:23:51,410
that did attached to these yeah what's

3155
02:24:00,001 --> 02:23:55,851
going on there and have you done you

3156
02:24:02,740 --> 02:24:00,011
know a research situation with with a

3157
02:24:06,581 --> 02:24:02,750
spirit that has attached to to a doll

3158
02:24:09,581 --> 02:24:06,591
you know we've had we went to this

3159
02:24:12,220 --> 02:24:09,591
Sprague mansion to do a three-part

3160
02:24:14,831 --> 02:24:12,230
series like a an investigation in a

3161
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:14,841
radio show and it was Australia and

3162
02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:16,610
England were all doing this live

3163
02:24:21,970 --> 02:24:19,370
broadcast right for Halloween and it

3164
02:24:24,490 --> 02:24:21,980
wasn't necessarily it was just creepy

3165
02:24:26,951 --> 02:24:24,500
for this that there was one room and as

3166
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:26,961
you say dolls right the room was filled

3167
02:24:32,711 --> 02:24:29,690
with these old creepy dolls that were

3168
02:24:34,871 --> 02:24:32,721
just sitting in the room and one of the

3169
02:24:38,470 --> 02:24:34,881
investigators thought that they saw the

3170
02:24:39,580 --> 02:24:38,480
doll move and he but but again he's

3171
02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:39,590
terrified of dolls for

3172
02:24:43,929 --> 02:24:42,290
right so we were trying to see if we can

3173
02:24:46,540 --> 02:24:43,939
gather any information and if it

3174
02:24:49,900 --> 02:24:46,550
actually did move but we can't validate

3175
02:24:53,110 --> 02:24:49,910
whether it did or didn't but again I

3176
02:24:54,880 --> 02:24:53,120
haven't had it just with the doll I will

3177
02:24:57,099 --> 02:24:54,890
say though that we we did have a

3178
02:24:59,679 --> 02:24:57,109
situation that have you ever heard of

3179
02:25:02,200 --> 02:24:59,689
the Dybbuk box yes and I was just gonna

3180
02:25:05,380 --> 02:25:02,210
bring that up that's you know things

3181
02:25:07,570 --> 02:25:05,390
getting attached you know and and you

3182
02:25:10,929 --> 02:25:07,580
remove these objects like the Dybbuk box

3183
02:25:14,110 --> 02:25:10,939
from the house and and things clean up

3184
02:25:17,860 --> 02:25:14,120
but whoever's got it now they have the

3185
02:25:22,030 --> 02:25:17,870
issues exactly and you know I could get

3186
02:25:25,660 --> 02:25:22,040
into some of the terrifying details of

3187
02:25:27,910 --> 02:25:25,670
that but the the Dybbuk box I actually

3188
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:27,920
had seen it originally on I think it was

3189
02:25:32,349 --> 02:25:30,410
eBay or something like that when

3190
02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:32,359
somebody was talking about it so being

3191
02:25:37,090 --> 02:25:33,770
that we have the paranormal

3192
02:25:38,889 --> 02:25:37,100
investigative team I put a sent an email

3193
02:25:41,290 --> 02:25:38,899
out to the person who had the Dybbuk box

3194
02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:41,300
and he was actually had it bound and

3195
02:25:45,730 --> 02:25:42,890
tied up in this museum place that he

3196
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:45,740
worked at right but the whole history of

3197
02:25:51,580 --> 02:25:49,370
it was written up on eBay so I called

3198
02:25:53,469 --> 02:25:51,590
this man and you know he talked to me

3199
02:25:55,690 --> 02:25:53,479
about it now I didn't know a lot of the

3200
02:25:57,010 --> 02:25:55,700
whole every part of the history about it

3201
02:25:58,750 --> 02:25:57,020
and things that had happened until he

3202
02:26:00,639 --> 02:25:58,760
started talking to me so I was just

3203
02:26:03,310 --> 02:26:00,649
really trying to take it to help him you

3204
02:26:04,420 --> 02:26:03,320
know like he was at home and he was

3205
02:26:06,700 --> 02:26:04,430
saying you know all these things were

3206
02:26:08,170 --> 02:26:06,710
happening so I said you know okay go to

3207
02:26:09,820 --> 02:26:08,180
your you know with your computer you

3208
02:26:12,010 --> 02:26:09,830
could try holy water you could try doing

3209
02:26:14,710 --> 02:26:12,020
blessings you know you can try doing all

3210
02:26:17,620 --> 02:26:14,720
this stuff and as I'm talking to him

3211
02:26:19,300 --> 02:26:17,630
Jimmy I actually walked in the other

3212
02:26:22,780 --> 02:26:19,310
room and I start smelling jasmine

3213
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:22,790
flowers all right no no exactly and I

3214
02:26:26,380 --> 02:26:24,770
start going oh maybe this isn't such a

3215
02:26:27,849 --> 02:26:26,390
good idea right because the Energy's

3216
02:26:29,410 --> 02:26:27,859
energy and you don't have to keep it in

3217
02:26:32,650 --> 02:26:29,420
one room right like it's in one place

3218
02:26:34,660 --> 02:26:32,660
its energy is you know I could be doing

3219
02:26:37,450 --> 02:26:34,670
remote healing for instance and it you

3220
02:26:40,389 --> 02:26:37,460
know so I know the reality that we're

3221
02:26:41,950 --> 02:26:40,399
not protected right so this guy says to

3222
02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:41,960
me Mommy I'm gonna call you something's

3223
02:26:45,730 --> 02:26:43,850
going on right now I will call you I'll

3224
02:26:48,190 --> 02:26:45,740
call you tomorrow like okay and I'm

3225
02:26:50,770 --> 02:26:48,200
thinking don't call me right um so

3226
02:26:52,910 --> 02:26:50,780
anyway he hangs up the phone he doesn't

3227
02:26:55,820 --> 02:26:52,920
call me the next day two days later

3228
02:26:57,830 --> 02:26:55,830
he calls me and he said well I ran into

3229
02:26:59,330 --> 02:26:57,840
a little bit of a problem he said when

3230
02:27:02,300 --> 02:26:59,340
you were talking to me on the phone and

3231
02:27:04,190 --> 02:27:02,310
you told me to use the holy water and so

3232
02:27:09,020 --> 02:27:04,200
forth he said my computer started on

3233
02:27:11,450 --> 02:27:09,030
fire and it literally melted my keyboard

3234
02:27:13,490 --> 02:27:11,460
it melted the computer I had it you know

3235
02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:13,500
the hard drive he said so I couldn't get

3236
02:27:16,850 --> 02:27:14,970
a hold of you right away because I had

3237
02:27:20,390 --> 02:27:16,860
to go to work at the Museum and get your

3238
02:27:22,520 --> 02:27:20,400
information again to call you and so I

3239
02:27:24,980 --> 02:27:22,530
thought oh this is you know this isn't

3240
02:27:27,560 --> 02:27:24,990
good so anyway I said look would you be

3241
02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:27,570
interested in talking to Ron and I you

3242
02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:29,490
know we'll do we'll talk to each other

3243
02:27:33,530 --> 02:27:31,920
and maybe do a radio show and try to

3244
02:27:38,290 --> 02:27:33,540
talk to you about what's going on and he

3245
02:27:41,120 --> 02:27:38,300
said sure so let me let me jump in and

3246
02:27:44,330 --> 02:27:41,130
we're gonna take a commercial break and

3247
02:27:44,960 --> 02:27:44,340
we're gonna come back and and finish

3248
02:27:48,700 --> 02:27:44,970
this

3249
02:27:52,670 --> 02:27:48,710
I'm already I'm already uncomfortable

3250
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:52,680
this is night two of our Halloween night

3251
02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:55,050
Maureen wood is here and of course we're

3252
02:28:00,230 --> 02:27:57,840
talking about her new book more ghost

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chronicles it's right there and you can

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get it at Amazon and all of the links

3255
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for it or over at Jimmy Church radio

3256
02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:07,439
calm more with Maureen right after this

3257
02:28:14,540 --> 02:28:10,850
short break Maureen are you on Twitter

3258
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:14,550
okay that's good enough we'll be right

3259
02:28:35,850 --> 02:28:33,140
[Music]

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3344
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3345
02:32:59,150 --> 02:32:57,470
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

3346
02:33:02,600 --> 02:32:59,160
host Jimmy Church doing a little

3347
02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:02,610
overtime with her yes tonight Maureen

3348
02:33:07,280 --> 02:33:05,040
would kitten kitten let Maureen go I'm

3349
02:33:10,730 --> 02:33:07,290
getting a little freaked out it's night

3350
02:33:13,310 --> 02:33:10,740
two of our Halloween week here on fade

3351
02:33:16,430 --> 02:33:13,320
to black and got into the story of the

3352
02:33:19,400 --> 02:33:16,440
Dybbuk box now first off Maureen this

3353
02:33:21,770 --> 02:33:19,410
yeah this is this got to be a really

3354
02:33:25,251 --> 02:33:21,780
really big deal and I remember when the

3355
02:33:28,310 --> 02:33:25,261
story broke I didn't know that you got

3356
02:33:31,791 --> 02:33:28,320
all involved in this eBay situation with

3357
02:33:35,961 --> 02:33:31,801
him Kevin so you were talking as

3358
02:33:38,030 --> 02:33:35,971
directly with Kevin Kevin Mannis you

3359
02:33:41,331 --> 02:33:38,040
know I'm I'm awful with my Mario name

3360
02:33:42,950 --> 02:33:41,341
sometimes and I think it was or I don't

3361
02:33:44,780 --> 02:33:42,960
know if it was a gentleman who bought it

3362
02:33:48,591 --> 02:33:44,790
got it from him I know that the person

3363
02:33:50,600 --> 02:33:48,601
who had it actually had the was it

3364
02:33:53,480 --> 02:33:50,610
working for a museum at the time so he

3365
02:33:56,541 --> 02:33:53,490
bound the Dybbuk box and put it in the

3366
02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:56,551
basement what you're right yeah what

3367
02:34:01,700 --> 02:34:00,000
year was this bad has to be oh my

3368
02:34:03,580 --> 02:34:01,710
goodness over ten years ago

3369
02:34:09,820 --> 02:34:03,590
okay

3370
02:34:13,600 --> 02:34:09,830
is nuts this you know it's it's so nuts

3371
02:34:16,480 --> 02:34:13,610
yeah I just posted pictures of it and I

3372
02:34:19,421 --> 02:34:16,490
remember and I've talked about this a

3373
02:34:21,970 --> 02:34:19,431
few times on the show over the years but

3374
02:34:24,580 --> 02:34:21,980
you you just look at it and it's a it's

3375
02:34:28,051 --> 02:34:24,590
like a wine cabinet or something right

3376
02:34:31,780 --> 02:34:28,061
you look at it and you know it's wrong

3377
02:34:34,990 --> 02:34:31,790
okay I there was what broken tombstones

3378
02:34:36,940 --> 02:34:35,000
that were in there for I guess it was

3379
02:34:39,190 --> 02:34:36,950
you know part of bringing them into the

3380
02:34:41,711 --> 02:34:39,200
Jewish people into the concentration

3381
02:34:44,921 --> 02:34:41,721
camps they would have them walk on as an

3382
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:44,931
insult walking on the stones right of

3383
02:34:50,110 --> 02:34:48,110
their loved ones the tombstones so there

3384
02:34:54,220 --> 02:34:50,120
had been I believe broken tombstone

3385
02:34:56,711 --> 02:34:54,230
pieces or also coins hair there was hair

3386
02:34:59,620 --> 02:34:56,721
that was inside you know it was it was

3387
02:35:02,730 --> 02:34:59,630
at a very you know you wouldn't think

3388
02:35:04,780 --> 02:35:02,740
that this would cause any kind of

3389
02:35:06,730 --> 02:35:04,790
paranormal event you know if he didn't

3390
02:35:08,290 --> 02:35:06,740
know about it but the stories that went

3391
02:35:11,410 --> 02:35:08,300
along with this Dybbuk box were

3392
02:35:13,211 --> 02:35:11,420
frightening and you know you sit there

3393
02:35:15,970 --> 02:35:13,221
in you you know we were interviewing

3394
02:35:17,740 --> 02:35:15,980
this person at the time and when we

3395
02:35:19,751 --> 02:35:17,750
talked to him you know one of the

3396
02:35:21,850 --> 02:35:19,761
stories that really jumps out at me was

3397
02:35:23,890 --> 02:35:21,860
he said you know he had when he

3398
02:35:26,140 --> 02:35:23,900
originally got the Dimmick box he didn't

3399
02:35:28,091 --> 02:35:26,150
really put too much stock like you know

3400
02:35:31,390 --> 02:35:28,101
proof from what was going on with it so

3401
02:35:33,370 --> 02:35:31,400
before he bound it you know he was gonna

3402
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:33,380
go off on this business trip I guess so

3403
02:35:37,841 --> 02:35:36,290
the box had been at his house so before

3404
02:35:39,970 --> 02:35:37,851
he had taken care of you know the steps

3405
02:35:42,580 --> 02:35:39,980
to protect themselves you know he said

3406
02:35:44,860 --> 02:35:42,590
that outside of his house was this tree

3407
02:35:47,110 --> 02:35:44,870
that would take literally maybe ten to

3408
02:35:48,761 --> 02:35:47,120
15 people would have to stand circular

3409
02:35:51,910 --> 02:35:48,771
around it and hold the hands that's how

3410
02:35:55,450 --> 02:35:51,920
big this base of this big old oak tree

3411
02:35:57,610 --> 02:35:55,460
was outside of his house um and he said

3412
02:36:00,370 --> 02:35:57,620
what happened was you know he was going

3413
02:36:02,171 --> 02:36:00,380
on a trip so he went to leave and he was

3414
02:36:05,530 --> 02:36:02,181
I don't know if he was at the airport or

3415
02:36:08,410 --> 02:36:05,540
he was going on the trip and he had made

3416
02:36:10,480 --> 02:36:08,420
some comment about the box and about it

3417
02:36:12,910 --> 02:36:10,490
not being you know what it thought it

3418
02:36:15,160 --> 02:36:12,920
was or he was talking to someone and at

3419
02:36:16,930 --> 02:36:15,170
the same time that he was relaying that

3420
02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:16,940
information

3421
02:36:21,131 --> 02:36:19,370
the tree uprooted itself out of the

3422
02:36:23,650 --> 02:36:21,141
ground there wasn't any wind going on

3423
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:23,660
there wasn't any sort of anything

3424
02:36:27,011 --> 02:36:25,610
happening well the tree uprooted itself

3425
02:36:32,171 --> 02:36:27,021
and crashed through the roof of his

3426
02:36:35,350 --> 02:36:32,181
house yeah so I mean that's only the

3427
02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:35,360
small stories that you hear that was

3428
02:36:39,850 --> 02:36:38,210
taking place so I mean imagine this so

3429
02:36:41,261 --> 02:36:39,860
you we said we were already saying how I

3430
02:36:44,020 --> 02:36:41,271
was smelling you know the jasmine

3431
02:36:46,541 --> 02:36:44,030
flowers right right and I'm feeling all

3432
02:36:48,430 --> 02:36:46,551
of this you know I start feeling all

3433
02:36:49,841 --> 02:36:48,440
this energy and I was not comfortable at

3434
02:36:51,190 --> 02:36:49,851
all with this whole thing and I kept

3435
02:36:52,841 --> 02:36:51,200
saying Ron you know maybe we should

3436
02:36:56,200 --> 02:36:52,851
cancel the radio show because I don't

3437
02:36:58,720 --> 02:36:56,210
want to really antagonize this this

3438
02:37:01,660 --> 02:36:58,730
energy or this entity and then get into

3439
02:37:03,881 --> 02:37:01,670
a bad place and Ron being ron was like

3440
02:37:06,430 --> 02:37:03,891
oh come on what's gonna happen you know

3441
02:37:09,761 --> 02:37:06,440
let's let's just do the show said okay

3442
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:09,771
so we interviewed this man we're on WCC

3443
02:37:16,450 --> 02:37:12,650
M and Lawrence Wright lives FM radio and

3444
02:37:19,240 --> 02:37:16,460
we're sitting there talking to this man

3445
02:37:21,820 --> 02:37:19,250
while all of a sudden we're as we're

3446
02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:21,830
talking to him you know the atmosphere

3447
02:37:27,671 --> 02:37:24,650
in the studio changed right it wasn't

3448
02:37:28,961 --> 02:37:27,681
just like you know before it was warm

3449
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:28,971
right I think we talked them in the

3450
02:37:33,671 --> 02:37:31,490
winter so but or the summer I can't

3451
02:37:35,350 --> 02:37:33,681
recall but it with the room change like

3452
02:37:37,421 --> 02:37:35,360
you know how you can feel the change

3453
02:37:39,131 --> 02:37:37,431
where you can feel this cold breeze just

3454
02:37:40,001 --> 02:37:39,141
coming up from the ground yeah I'm

3455
02:37:44,530 --> 02:37:40,011
feeling it now

3456
02:37:46,541 --> 02:37:44,540
so just feeling this cold breeze

3457
02:37:48,461 --> 02:37:46,551
surround you and I could feel that

3458
02:37:50,320 --> 02:37:48,471
energy and as this man's talking I'm

3459
02:37:53,410 --> 02:37:50,330
thinking oh my god we just have to get

3460
02:37:55,690 --> 02:37:53,420
him off the phone and Ron is now getting

3461
02:37:57,761 --> 02:37:55,700
agitated I could see it so I'm looking

3462
02:38:00,461 --> 02:37:57,771
at him and I'm thinking holy crap you

3463
02:38:02,140 --> 02:38:00,471
know we're now where we're supposed to

3464
02:38:03,700 --> 02:38:02,150
meet the whole team at the Windham

3465
02:38:05,381 --> 02:38:03,710
restaurant in New Hampshire after we're

3466
02:38:07,150 --> 02:38:05,391
done this interview but now we're

3467
02:38:09,190 --> 02:38:07,160
literally at each other's throats so we

3468
02:38:11,291 --> 02:38:09,200
get off this radio station and we are

3469
02:38:13,961 --> 02:38:11,301
like Angry which each other and we're

3470
02:38:15,881 --> 02:38:13,971
bickering like we never did before and I

3471
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:15,891
kept saying to him you know I told you

3472
02:38:18,791 --> 02:38:17,210
that we shouldn't have done this show

3473
02:38:20,680 --> 02:38:18,801
and blah blah blah and he's like oh stop

3474
02:38:22,961 --> 02:38:20,690
stop worrying about it this is fine

3475
02:38:24,761 --> 02:38:22,971
don't worry about it like okay while we

3476
02:38:26,860 --> 02:38:24,771
go out to the Windham restaurant you

3477
02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:26,870
know we're sitting there and Ron is

3478
02:38:30,210 --> 02:38:28,930
talking about the show and

3479
02:38:31,439 --> 02:38:30,220
as he's talking about the show I'm

3480
02:38:33,990 --> 02:38:31,449
looking at him like please don't bring

3481
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:34,000
it up right don't start getting into

3482
02:38:37,590 --> 02:38:36,010
that you know conversation I don't I

3483
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:37,600
don't want to deal with it well he goes

3484
02:38:42,450 --> 02:38:40,930
oh come on I'm bulletproof well I'm not

3485
02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:42,460
even kidding you it was like somebody

3486
02:38:46,500 --> 02:38:44,170
kicked the chair out from under him and

3487
02:38:48,090 --> 02:38:46,510
he went right back on the ground so

3488
02:38:51,150 --> 02:38:48,100
we're in the restaurant and now he's on

3489
02:38:52,650 --> 02:38:51,160
the floor his chair had tipped over so

3490
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:52,660
he's like will allow he's a little

3491
02:38:57,150 --> 02:38:54,880
slight shaken right like no no he gets

3492
02:38:57,630 --> 02:38:57,160
up sit so that was that was a fluke okay

3493
02:39:00,689 --> 02:38:57,640
Ron

3494
02:39:02,639 --> 02:39:00,699
well maybe within 20 minutes later he's

3495
02:39:07,679 --> 02:39:02,649
like we're all leaving we're dispersing

3496
02:39:09,479 --> 02:39:07,689
from the you know the restaurant and he

3497
02:39:11,099 --> 02:39:09,489
had him and his wife leave and they're

3498
02:39:14,040 --> 02:39:11,109
in this small little Taurus or something

3499
02:39:17,760 --> 02:39:14,050
a white car and it's nighttime but it's

3500
02:39:20,639 --> 02:39:17,770
a white car right and he drives he goes

3501
02:39:23,010 --> 02:39:20,649
to this intersection and he goes to take

3502
02:39:25,830 --> 02:39:23,020
a turn on this road and he had the right

3503
02:39:28,740 --> 02:39:25,840
away and this car plowed right into the

3504
02:39:30,179 --> 02:39:28,750
side of him and you know the he got out

3505
02:39:32,519 --> 02:39:30,189
and he's like what's going on and the

3506
02:39:35,820 --> 02:39:32,529
guy looked he said I swear I never still

3507
02:39:38,670 --> 02:39:35,830
was no car I didn't see you at all then

3508
02:39:40,349 --> 02:39:38,680
yeah and so vaanil always say remember

3509
02:39:44,340 --> 02:39:40,359
what happened tonight I said I was

3510
02:39:48,330 --> 02:39:44,350
bulletproof I mean yeah now and you're

3511
02:39:49,889 --> 02:39:48,340
saying that this was 10 years ago must

3512
02:39:52,139 --> 02:39:49,899
have been more than that actually and

3513
02:39:56,570 --> 02:39:52,149
what's what's interesting here Maureen

3514
02:40:02,790 --> 02:39:56,580
is that the box when it was opened in

3515
02:40:06,420 --> 02:40:02,800
2012 okay so no no hold on hold on check

3516
02:40:10,260 --> 02:40:06,430
this out when it was auctioned and and

3517
02:40:13,170 --> 02:40:10,270
and stuff in 2012 on eBay this is this

3518
02:40:15,900 --> 02:40:13,180
was at years after you had your

3519
02:40:21,179 --> 02:40:15,910
experience but when it was opened inside

3520
02:40:24,750 --> 02:40:21,189
in 2012 they found 1920s pennies a

3521
02:40:27,990 --> 02:40:24,760
locket blonde hair bound with a cord a

3522
02:40:30,269 --> 02:40:28,000
lock of black brown hair bound with the

3523
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:30,279
cord a small statue engraved with the

3524
02:40:38,910 --> 02:40:34,090
Hebrew word Shalom a small golden wine

3525
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:38,920
goblet a dried rosebud and a single

3526
02:40:46,240 --> 02:40:39,770
candle

3527
02:40:49,180 --> 02:40:46,250
with for octopus shaped legs okay there

3528
02:40:55,060 --> 02:40:49,190
you go and it's yeah and that was in

3529
02:40:57,580 --> 02:40:55,070
2012 and so well you're verifying what

3530
02:41:00,219 --> 02:40:57,590
was in the box and and and so this was

3531
02:41:04,660 --> 02:41:00,229
you know going back years before it was

3532
02:41:07,480 --> 02:41:04,670
opened in in 2012 and and the original

3533
02:41:10,480 --> 02:41:07,490
owners of the box that Jewish family

3534
02:41:14,370 --> 02:41:10,490
they had said then that the box was

3535
02:41:19,420 --> 02:41:14,380
possessed by Dybbuk which is a you know

3536
02:41:22,900 --> 02:41:19,430
the Jewish demon or devil or entity that

3537
02:41:25,810 --> 02:41:22,910
lives inside the box and you don't you

3538
02:41:27,700 --> 02:41:25,820
don't open it right don't open it I

3539
02:41:29,770 --> 02:41:27,710
thought buried with the person that's

3540
02:41:34,660 --> 02:41:29,780
right and and the original owner said

3541
02:41:36,820 --> 02:41:34,670
that she said that the Box have been

3542
02:41:40,390 --> 02:41:36,830
kept in her grandmother's sewing room

3543
02:41:43,480 --> 02:41:40,400
and was never opened because a dybbuk

3544
02:41:46,600 --> 02:41:43,490
was said to live inside of it and so it

3545
02:41:49,719 --> 02:41:46,610
went from there to the guy that you

3546
02:41:51,550 --> 02:41:49,729
interviewed so many years ago and then

3547
02:41:53,260 --> 02:41:51,560
it eventually it went through numerous

3548
02:41:55,300 --> 02:41:53,270
owners oh it went through numerous

3549
02:41:59,260 --> 02:41:55,310
owners and I have to say if you read the

3550
02:42:02,140 --> 02:41:59,270
history of it it's it's yeah it's

3551
02:42:04,210 --> 02:42:02,150
horrifying there you know I think one of

3552
02:42:08,680 --> 02:42:04,220
the first owners was someone that had it

3553
02:42:12,790 --> 02:42:08,690
like a antique store or like a pawn shop

3554
02:42:15,910 --> 02:42:12,800
almost right and they they had the box

3555
02:42:18,550 --> 02:42:15,920
inside that location and they started

3556
02:42:20,710 --> 02:42:18,560
having issues in the you know on in the

3557
02:42:23,920 --> 02:42:20,720
basement like of Jasmine's the smell of

3558
02:42:27,190 --> 02:42:23,930
urine and the smell of jasmine flowers

3559
02:42:30,190 --> 02:42:27,200
and then the person who had been in that

3560
02:42:31,810 --> 02:42:30,200
shop got very ill so that was one of the

3561
02:42:33,969 --> 02:42:31,820
signs that every time someone owned it

3562
02:42:36,310 --> 02:42:33,979
they'd see this loping creature that

3563
02:42:38,710 --> 02:42:36,320
would be you know pretty much haunting

3564
02:42:40,540 --> 02:42:38,720
them going down their hallways and then

3565
02:42:43,990 --> 02:42:40,550
they would be losing their hair they

3566
02:42:45,580 --> 02:42:44,000
would get very ill and sick and there

3567
02:42:48,400 --> 02:42:45,590
was like no treatment as long as they

3568
02:42:50,170 --> 02:42:48,410
had that box they remained ill and as it

3569
02:42:52,030 --> 02:42:50,180
passed hands with different people I

3570
02:42:53,440 --> 02:42:52,040
mean one person it ended up back on

3571
02:42:55,030 --> 02:42:53,450
someone bought it from that show

3572
02:42:56,500 --> 02:42:55,040
and then the next thing they know they

3573
02:42:58,270 --> 02:42:56,510
returned it back in front of the shop

3574
02:43:02,050 --> 02:42:58,280
because they didn't want it because they

3575
02:43:06,130 --> 02:43:02,060
realized they connected the pieces do

3576
02:43:08,710 --> 02:43:06,140
you know who's got it now you know I I

3577
02:43:09,880 --> 02:43:08,720
lost track of it because I decided at

3578
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:09,890
that time and I'm surprised I even

3579
02:43:13,780 --> 02:43:12,110
brought it up tonight but you know yes

3580
02:43:17,980 --> 02:43:13,790
I'll tell you Oh

3581
02:43:19,390 --> 02:43:17,990
zak bagans no way really yep yep we

3582
02:43:19,960 --> 02:43:19,400
should cut you want to we should call

3583
02:43:24,730 --> 02:43:19,970
him right now

3584
02:43:32,350 --> 02:43:24,740
okay to call him got his number right

3585
02:43:34,570 --> 02:43:32,360
here and now there's before I can't not

3586
02:43:37,660 --> 02:43:34,580
let you go without talking about Robert

3587
02:43:40,660 --> 02:43:37,670
the doll have you have you checked out

3588
02:43:42,640 --> 02:43:40,670
Robert the doll I have heard about

3589
02:43:47,020 --> 02:43:42,650
Robert the doll and I have a good friend

3590
02:43:51,960 --> 02:43:47,030
who is a writer and also you know her

3591
02:43:55,150 --> 02:43:51,970
husband has been very big Patrick Burns

3592
02:43:57,160 --> 02:43:55,160
into the paranormal for years so he does

3593
02:43:59,469 --> 02:43:57,170
ghost tours out in Savannah and they

3594
02:44:02,290 --> 02:43:59,479
went down they lived down there at Key

3595
02:44:04,210 --> 02:44:02,300
West and they you know really were

3596
02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:04,220
talking a lot about Rob at the doll so

3597
02:44:08,050 --> 02:44:06,080
personally myself no but I've heard

3598
02:44:09,280 --> 02:44:08,060
different stories yeah you just look at

3599
02:44:12,520 --> 02:44:09,290
the picture and you know there's

3600
02:44:15,640 --> 02:44:12,530
something incorrect I mean yeah it's

3601
02:44:18,490 --> 02:44:15,650
just way wrong I mean John Zaffis right

3602
02:44:20,140 --> 02:44:18,500
I mean my goodness I mean you obviously

3603
02:44:22,690 --> 02:44:20,150
you're familiar with Johnny's office

3604
02:44:24,429 --> 02:44:22,700
right absolutely yeah so I mean I've

3605
02:44:26,110 --> 02:44:24,439
seen talks with him many times we

3606
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:26,120
have--we've on you know gone to

3607
02:44:31,540 --> 02:44:28,010
conferences and so forth together and

3608
02:44:34,330 --> 02:44:31,550
he's a great guy but I could not keep

3609
02:44:37,450 --> 02:44:34,340
all of those they make a museum and keep

3610
02:44:39,969 --> 02:44:37,460
all of these cursed objects and you know

3611
02:44:41,530 --> 02:44:39,979
I I heard stories from him about you

3612
02:44:44,140 --> 02:44:41,540
know having them in his house at one

3613
02:44:45,490 --> 02:44:44,150
point where he got so many of them and

3614
02:44:48,340 --> 02:44:45,500
he would have friends that were priests

3615
02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:48,350
that would come and bind them and do you

3616
02:44:52,090 --> 02:44:50,330
know do prayers to bind them so that

3617
02:44:53,500 --> 02:44:52,100
they wouldn't have problems well when he

3618
02:44:55,000 --> 02:44:53,510
was going to you know his wife finally

3619
02:44:57,880 --> 02:44:55,010
said you know you need to get these

3620
02:44:59,920 --> 02:44:57,890
things out of here we I want to get rid

3621
02:45:02,679 --> 02:44:59,930
of them and so that's why he went to

3622
02:45:04,780 --> 02:45:02,689
look to have a museum set up well when

3623
02:45:06,370 --> 02:45:04,790
he went to have the priests you know

3624
02:45:06,820 --> 02:45:06,380
from what I hear he went to have the

3625
02:45:09,280 --> 02:45:06,830
priests

3626
02:45:11,349 --> 02:45:09,290
they to move them he said it was like

3627
02:45:13,179 --> 02:45:11,359
you know when you have a windy day with

3628
02:45:14,650 --> 02:45:13,189
leaves everywhere he said everything was

3629
02:45:19,270 --> 02:45:14,660
like in the room was just whipping

3630
02:45:21,580 --> 02:45:19,280
around and turbulent so yeah this is me

3631
02:45:23,860 --> 02:45:21,590
that's very creepy I would you know I'm

3632
02:45:24,880 --> 02:45:23,870
good about not having any cursed objects

3633
02:45:28,540 --> 02:45:24,890
around me thank you

3634
02:45:33,219 --> 02:45:28,550
good side let's let's let's finish the

3635
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:33,229
evening with the attack of the puck wuji

3636
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:38,210
oh you would ask I have to know right I

3637
02:45:44,650 --> 02:45:42,560
have to know yeah you know what that was

3638
02:45:46,540 --> 02:45:44,660
you know it's I feel like I'm repeating

3639
02:45:48,370 --> 02:45:46,550
myself but yeah that was a crazy night

3640
02:45:51,190 --> 02:45:48,380
you know we were supposed they're all

3641
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:51,200
crazy right crazy but Ron said you know

3642
02:45:54,219 --> 02:45:52,850
let's go we're gonna go we're just kind

3643
02:45:55,389 --> 02:45:54,229
of out in the woods for a you know walk

3644
02:45:57,400 --> 02:45:55,399
and hike dress warm

3645
02:46:00,370 --> 02:45:57,410
you know we're hiking boots and whatever

3646
02:46:01,809 --> 02:46:00,380
we'll be fine and so you know bring a

3647
02:46:04,450 --> 02:46:01,819
pendulum I'm thinking I should have

3648
02:46:06,370 --> 02:46:04,460
known but we get the every when we get

3649
02:46:08,740 --> 02:46:06,380
there he goes yeah he says we're gonna

3650
02:46:10,870 --> 02:46:08,750
investigate with Chris belzoni the POC

3651
02:46:13,030 --> 02:46:10,880
wedgie and I'm like really he goes an

3652
02:46:14,889 --> 02:46:13,040
elemental now not trying to be a snob or

3653
02:46:18,370 --> 02:46:14,899
anything but I'm not you know I never

3654
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:18,380
really bought into some things so I'm

3655
02:46:22,090 --> 02:46:20,479
like okay whatever so I'm just thinking

3656
02:46:24,219 --> 02:46:22,100
it's pretty much a walk in the woods

3657
02:46:28,900 --> 02:46:24,229
dude you know what a puck wedgie was at

3658
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:28,910
that point no okay what you know what

3659
02:46:36,580 --> 02:46:32,000
briefly for the audience what is a puck

3660
02:46:40,420 --> 02:46:36,590
was he a gnome like creature right that

3661
02:46:43,750 --> 02:46:40,430
if I had to describe it you know it it's

3662
02:46:45,280 --> 02:46:43,760
about two foot tall it's it started off

3663
02:46:48,270 --> 02:46:45,290
as like a prankster right and it looks

3664
02:46:51,340 --> 02:46:48,280
like this little ape creature almost and

3665
02:46:55,150 --> 02:46:51,350
it supposedly was like a trickster for

3666
02:46:58,330 --> 02:46:55,160
the Native Americans so in the you know

3667
02:47:00,570 --> 02:46:58,340
the Bridgewater triangle area where this

3668
02:47:04,570 --> 02:47:00,580
puck hua ji has been known to inhabit

3669
02:47:06,940 --> 02:47:04,580
it's supposed to lead people in and lure

3670
02:47:09,040 --> 02:47:06,950
them in with these lights and when the

3671
02:47:11,650 --> 02:47:09,050
people get lost in the forest others

3672
02:47:12,940 --> 02:47:11,660
have been attacked or you know the

3673
02:47:14,099 --> 02:47:12,950
people have jumped off cliffs and

3674
02:47:17,679 --> 02:47:14,109
committed suicide

3675
02:47:20,030 --> 02:47:17,689
so they're attributing this a lot to the

3676
02:47:23,180 --> 02:47:20,040
puck Wu Jie right this little elemental

3677
02:47:25,700 --> 02:47:23,190
creature that that supposedly started

3678
02:47:29,270 --> 02:47:25,710
off as a trickster but then went bad and

3679
02:47:32,810 --> 02:47:29,280
so Ron talks you into this yeah pretty

3680
02:47:35,060 --> 02:47:32,820
much I mean and again gullible me I go

3681
02:47:38,570 --> 02:47:35,070
and think yeah no big deal you know

3682
02:47:42,261 --> 02:47:38,580
we're going for walk but you know again

3683
02:47:43,820 --> 02:47:42,271
you don't know to you know I guess so we

3684
02:47:46,280 --> 02:47:43,830
get out there and we're walking around

3685
02:47:47,810 --> 02:47:46,290
and now it's getting dark and honestly

3686
02:47:49,430 --> 02:47:47,820
it felt like somebody was following us

3687
02:47:51,080 --> 02:47:49,440
the whole time and I was getting very

3688
02:47:53,210 --> 02:47:51,090
creeped out and I thought yeah maybe

3689
02:47:56,240 --> 02:47:53,220
it's a little more going on than meets

3690
02:47:57,950 --> 02:47:56,250
the eye so we had thermal D and we

3691
02:48:00,650 --> 02:47:57,960
called them in our team at the time and

3692
02:48:01,940 --> 02:48:00,660
he had a thermal imaging camera and he

3693
02:48:05,120 --> 02:48:01,950
was walking with me or another

3694
02:48:06,380 --> 02:48:05,130
individual clay and you know I'm saying

3695
02:48:08,090 --> 02:48:06,390
you know wow there's someone following

3696
02:48:10,940 --> 02:48:08,100
us I can feel it you know they're

3697
02:48:13,190 --> 02:48:10,950
they're like waiting to pounce and you

3698
02:48:14,960 --> 02:48:13,200
know they're like oh so he puts the the

3699
02:48:18,890 --> 02:48:14,970
thermal-imaging camera up to the woods

3700
02:48:21,050 --> 02:48:18,900
and it was as if they said it was like

3701
02:48:24,500 --> 02:48:21,060
the face of scream you know when you see

3702
02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:24,510
the it started morphing into this face

3703
02:48:28,610 --> 02:48:26,730
at these eyes and the mouth wide open

3704
02:48:30,620 --> 02:48:28,620
and it started coming closer but as it

3705
02:48:35,420 --> 02:48:30,630
was coming closer I'm feeling the energy

3706
02:48:37,250 --> 02:48:35,430
it literally jumped right in me so you

3707
02:48:41,120 --> 02:48:37,260
know unfortunately there are videos with

3708
02:48:42,560 --> 02:48:41,130
me cursing hissing spitting Ron came

3709
02:48:44,330 --> 02:48:42,570
back to try to help and we were

3710
02:48:46,460 --> 02:48:44,340
wrestling on the ground and it wasn't

3711
02:48:50,270 --> 02:48:46,470
just one event during the night Jimmy

3712
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:50,280
it was two the second time it happened

3713
02:48:53,690 --> 02:48:52,110
we were near the ledge where people were

3714
02:48:56,840 --> 02:48:53,700
committing suicide mm-hm

3715
02:48:58,430 --> 02:48:56,850
and we were near the water and as I'm

3716
02:49:00,290 --> 02:48:58,440
standing there everybody's looking out

3717
02:49:04,130 --> 02:49:00,300
at the water and I start feeling this

3718
02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:04,140
thing again and I it was so bizarre

3719
02:49:08,120 --> 02:49:06,000
because you know how I said I feel what

3720
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:08,130
they feel right so I'm over there

3721
02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:10,050
feeling like I want to run up a tree and

3722
02:49:14,900 --> 02:49:12,090
I thought okay I'm really losing my mind

3723
02:49:17,810 --> 02:49:14,910
right now because I just felt this urge

3724
02:49:19,790 --> 02:49:17,820
to just run and just scream and yell and

3725
02:49:21,530 --> 02:49:19,800
I'm thinking what the hell is going on

3726
02:49:24,620 --> 02:49:21,540
and the next thing I know I'm being

3727
02:49:27,410 --> 02:49:24,630
tackled to the ground from Ron and Chris

3728
02:49:28,490 --> 02:49:27,420
belzoni like their football people but

3729
02:49:30,980 --> 02:49:28,500
they said you know they were afraid that

3730
02:49:32,631 --> 02:49:30,990
I was going to go into the water because

3731
02:49:36,741 --> 02:49:32,641
I was backing up and

3732
02:49:39,350 --> 02:49:36,751
you know and under remember Chris pals I

3733
02:49:45,680 --> 02:49:39,360
know from the Bridgewater's room oh yes

3734
02:49:47,751 --> 02:49:45,690
he yeah years ago he was on this show I

3735
02:49:48,951 --> 02:49:47,761
haven't talked to him in probably five

3736
02:49:51,770 --> 02:49:48,961
years Chris belzoni

3737
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:51,780
yeah okay so it's you and Chris you get

3738
02:49:57,261 --> 02:49:55,110
tackled what happens so what happens is

3739
02:49:59,301 --> 02:49:57,271
so they they tackle me and if you see

3740
02:50:02,720 --> 02:49:59,311
the video which unfortunately is out on

3741
02:50:04,671 --> 02:50:02,730
many like television cable stations it

3742
02:50:08,241 --> 02:50:04,681
was in one of the movies that was out

3743
02:50:12,411 --> 02:50:08,251
for the Bridgewater triangle and so it's

3744
02:50:15,201 --> 02:50:12,421
out there to be seen but you know I'm

3745
02:50:17,091 --> 02:50:15,211
hissing and growling and it sounds it

3746
02:50:18,470 --> 02:50:17,101
sound it scares me so when I look at it

3747
02:50:20,511 --> 02:50:18,480
I don't like seeing it because it's

3748
02:50:23,001 --> 02:50:20,521
terrifying you know to see yourself in

3749
02:50:27,140 --> 02:50:23,011
that state well after it's all done and

3750
02:50:31,041 --> 02:50:27,150
said you know when I kind of was myself

3751
02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:31,051
again the odd part was I thought you

3752
02:50:35,390 --> 02:50:33,570
know when you taste blood like you you

3753
02:50:37,430 --> 02:50:35,400
taste pennies right like you get that

3754
02:50:40,730 --> 02:50:37,440
metal taste in your mouth yes

3755
02:50:42,861 --> 02:50:40,740
so I after I thought I bit my tongue or

3756
02:50:44,690 --> 02:50:42,871
I was bleeding so I'm over there putting

3757
02:50:48,350 --> 02:50:44,700
my hands in my mouth like did I cut

3758
02:50:50,751 --> 02:50:48,360
myself and I didn't I had no cut no bite

3759
02:50:52,730 --> 02:50:50,761
of my tongue but yet my mouth tasted

3760
02:50:55,491 --> 02:50:52,740
like I just swallowed something was all

3761
02:50:58,011 --> 02:50:55,501
full of blood and again I had that urge

3762
02:50:59,361 --> 02:50:58,021
to run and scream and in Ron I think got

3763
02:51:01,071 --> 02:50:59,371
a little nervous too and I think that

3764
02:51:02,331 --> 02:51:01,081
night was the night I dislocated his

3765
02:51:05,121 --> 02:51:02,341
finger he had to get his wedding ring

3766
02:51:06,890 --> 02:51:05,131
cut off and he had just had open-heart

3767
02:51:09,020 --> 02:51:06,900
surgery like a few months before that

3768
02:51:10,850 --> 02:51:09,030
and I'm over there wrestling and he's

3769
02:51:12,470 --> 02:51:10,860
wrestling me to the ground which

3770
02:51:14,331 --> 02:51:12,480
probably was not the smartest thing for

3771
02:51:17,301 --> 02:51:14,341
either one of us to do but it wasn't

3772
02:51:19,940 --> 02:51:17,311
planned it just kind of happened what

3773
02:51:22,341 --> 02:51:19,950
what is it about that area

3774
02:51:26,661 --> 02:51:22,351
you know Boston Salem the Bridgewater

3775
02:51:29,121 --> 02:51:26,671
triangle this goes yeah this goes back

3776
02:51:32,571 --> 02:51:29,131
centuries this isn't anything new this

3777
02:51:36,531 --> 02:51:32,581
is I know what what is it about the area

3778
02:51:38,511 --> 02:51:36,541
Oh what about what is I'm trying to

3779
02:51:41,631 --> 02:51:38,521
remember the name of it the little that

3780
02:51:43,430 --> 02:51:41,641
little Hut in the middle of the crazy

3781
02:51:45,171 --> 02:51:43,440
clown hut in the middle of the

3782
02:51:48,291 --> 02:51:45,181
Bridgewater triangle in the woods

3783
02:51:50,150 --> 02:51:48,301
oh well I know that you know I know some

3784
02:51:51,530 --> 02:51:50,160
of the history of it where they think

3785
02:51:56,030 --> 02:51:51,540
that there's been a lot of satanic

3786
02:51:57,711 --> 02:51:56,040
rituals that have - yes yeah so I mean

3787
02:52:00,041 --> 02:51:57,721
those are and they have so many

3788
02:52:03,860 --> 02:52:00,051
unexplained lights that they see and

3789
02:52:05,841 --> 02:52:03,870
again they can't understand why it's the

3790
02:52:10,341 --> 02:52:05,851
place the biggest place where they've

3791
02:52:12,320 --> 02:52:10,351
found people committing suicide Wow it

3792
02:52:15,020 --> 02:52:12,330
can't be coincidence

3793
02:52:16,910 --> 02:52:15,030
no it can't it's got to be there's some

3794
02:52:18,621 --> 02:52:16,920
energy there's who knows if there's ley

3795
02:52:22,190 --> 02:52:18,631
lines if there is like a weird energy

3796
02:52:24,671 --> 02:52:22,200
source there but you know I don't know I

3797
02:52:28,791 --> 02:52:24,681
mean anywhere that you talk about

3798
02:52:30,051 --> 02:52:28,801
satanic rituals I think that you're you

3799
02:52:32,121 --> 02:52:30,061
know you're opening up all these

3800
02:52:35,030 --> 02:52:32,131
different pockets let's say of energy

3801
02:52:38,450 --> 02:52:35,040
that is not doing anybody any good yeah

3802
02:52:41,961 --> 02:52:38,460
and right now I'm like four episodes in

3803
02:52:44,541 --> 02:52:41,971
to the new I'm gonna say it the new

3804
02:52:49,881 --> 02:52:44,551
Sabrina the Teenage Witch right I think

3805
02:52:57,350 --> 02:52:49,891
it's a Netflix or Adam and where does it

3806
02:52:58,671 --> 02:52:57,360
take place in your neighborhood because

3807
02:53:00,560 --> 02:52:58,681
I just happened to cross it a couple

3808
02:53:03,921 --> 02:53:00,570
days ago and I'm already at like I don't

3809
02:53:05,900 --> 02:53:03,931
know seven episodes it's good it is good

3810
02:53:09,051 --> 02:53:05,910
I think it's great it was funny my

3811
02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:09,061
daughter's name is Sabrina the oh really

3812
02:53:15,291 --> 02:53:13,170
okay this isn't this isn't the Sabrina

3813
02:53:15,980 --> 02:53:15,301
the Teenage Witch from the Disney

3814
02:53:21,440 --> 02:53:15,990
Channel

3815
02:53:24,711 --> 02:53:21,450
this this is all nether Sabrina yes in

3816
02:53:27,350 --> 02:53:24,721
the first episode first or second I

3817
02:53:28,940 --> 02:53:27,360
don't know which one it is but when when

3818
02:53:32,240 --> 02:53:28,950
the teacher gets stabbed in the neck

3819
02:53:34,220 --> 02:53:32,250
with the scissors right okay and in the

3820
02:53:38,270 --> 02:53:34,230
blood and it's going ever I turn to read

3821
02:53:41,301 --> 02:53:38,280
and I go this this ain't that Sabrina no

3822
02:53:44,421 --> 02:53:41,311
no and she's what half half human and

3823
02:53:46,011 --> 02:53:44,431
half witch yes right and if you notice a

3824
02:53:49,070 --> 02:53:46,021
lot of the characters or the other a lot

3825
02:53:51,350 --> 02:53:49,080
of the ones they talk about are almost

3826
02:53:53,301 --> 02:53:51,360
characters in different stories right

3827
02:53:56,570 --> 02:53:53,311
have you noticed that like some of their

3828
02:53:58,180 --> 02:53:56,580
theorem Faustus you got thousand yes

3829
02:54:00,911 --> 02:53:58,190
Faustus and

3830
02:54:04,211 --> 02:54:00,921
but man I'll tell you it is it's very

3831
02:54:07,871 --> 02:54:04,221
addictive I'm so into it and I I don't

3832
02:54:10,390 --> 02:54:07,881
you know see this is the thing I don't

3833
02:54:13,780 --> 02:54:10,400
care what people think about me that's

3834
02:54:17,381 --> 02:54:13,790
the first thing but if I'm gonna say as

3835
02:54:19,421 --> 02:54:17,391
a 55 year old grown man that I'm

3836
02:54:21,341 --> 02:54:19,431
watching Sabrina the Teenage Witch and

3837
02:54:23,680 --> 02:54:21,351
people want to pass judgment well you

3838
02:54:27,011 --> 02:54:23,690
know what you haven't seen it you have

3839
02:54:29,501 --> 02:54:27,021
you need to go and check it out it is

3840
02:54:32,470 --> 02:54:29,511
really really cool and really

3841
02:54:34,751 --> 02:54:32,480
well-written well and so was the book

3842
02:54:38,591 --> 02:54:34,761
Maureen thank you for everything tonight

3843
02:54:40,871 --> 02:54:38,601
I look forward to actually having you

3844
02:54:43,211 --> 02:54:40,881
back on when we're not telling stories

3845
02:54:44,650 --> 02:54:43,221
let's just talk about investigations and

3846
02:54:47,530 --> 02:54:44,660
new techniques and I would like to have

3847
02:54:50,261 --> 02:54:47,540
Ron on the show where can everybody go

3848
02:54:52,150 --> 02:54:50,271
and get the book it's available at

3849
02:54:54,671 --> 02:54:52,160
Barnes & Noble you can actually go on

3850
02:54:56,711 --> 02:54:54,681
amazon.com as well and you can order it

3851
02:54:59,291 --> 02:54:56,721
from there and a lot of different books

3852
02:55:01,211 --> 02:54:59,301
all those are carrying it are you and

3853
02:55:02,890 --> 02:55:01,221
Ron out I know that you mentioned that

3854
02:55:04,930 --> 02:55:02,900
you were speaking today what are you

3855
02:55:06,720 --> 02:55:04,940
guys doing out there publicly where

3856
02:55:09,761 --> 02:55:06,730
people can go and listen to you guys

3857
02:55:11,291 --> 02:55:09,771
well we have been doing for the last

3858
02:55:13,841 --> 02:55:11,301
month and a half we've been doing a lot

3859
02:55:15,791 --> 02:55:13,851
of you know college talking to call at

3860
02:55:17,470 --> 02:55:15,801
colleges and libraries locally in the

3861
02:55:21,490 --> 02:55:17,480
area last night we're at Tewksbury

3862
02:55:23,140 --> 02:55:21,500
library in Massachusetts you know we're

3863
02:55:25,900 --> 02:55:23,150
doing again like a lot of radio

3864
02:55:29,251 --> 02:55:25,910
interviews radio shows but in fact

3865
02:55:31,091 --> 02:55:29,261
Friday night we have a little mini

3866
02:55:34,121 --> 02:55:31,101
investigation I guess that we're doing

3867
02:55:36,490 --> 02:55:34,131
but unfortunately that one's private so

3868
02:55:40,570 --> 02:55:36,500
it's you know if you just go on any

3869
02:55:42,220 --> 02:55:40,580
ghost project comm to Ron's website and

3870
02:55:44,350 --> 02:55:42,230
you can find all the different

3871
02:55:45,911 --> 02:55:44,360
happenings that have taken place thank

3872
02:55:49,301 --> 02:55:45,921
you so much Maureen what a great

3873
02:55:51,671 --> 02:55:49,311
conversation I had so much fun and I can

3874
02:55:54,581 --> 02:55:51,681
only imagine what your Halloween is

3875
02:55:56,530 --> 02:55:54,591
going to be like tomorrow night go and

3876
02:55:58,570 --> 02:55:56,540
and do it and do it correctly and be

3877
02:56:00,520 --> 02:55:58,580
safe thank you so much thank you so much

3878
02:56:02,350 --> 02:56:00,530
have a great night Thank You Maureen a

3879
02:56:06,791 --> 02:56:02,360
great conversation thank you so much

3880
02:56:09,011 --> 02:56:06,801
thanks Bobby the book is more ghost

3881
02:56:11,261 --> 02:56:09,021
chronicles and again the links are over

3882
02:56:13,480 --> 02:56:11,271
at a Jimmy Church radio.com

3883
02:56:16,631 --> 02:56:13,490
and what a great conversation tonight

3884
02:56:18,820 --> 02:56:16,641
and I did I turned down the lights here

3885
02:56:22,421 --> 02:56:18,830
in the studio I usually keep it pretty

3886
02:56:25,091 --> 02:56:22,431
dark in here but tonight I want extra

3887
02:56:27,310 --> 02:56:25,101
dark and I was looking at some of the

3888
02:56:29,801 --> 02:56:27,320
comments in Twitter is there any way to

3889
02:56:32,591 --> 02:56:29,811
get the fuzziness out I'm letting you

3890
02:56:35,711 --> 02:56:32,601
guys know you know in in in the bunker

3891
02:56:37,690 --> 02:56:35,721
cam I turn the lights down I turn the

3892
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:37,700
lights down tonight and I got it nice

3893
02:56:43,330 --> 02:56:40,160
and dark so there you go that's what's

3894
02:56:46,211 --> 02:56:43,340
going on I'm I'm looking at myself over

3895
02:56:48,881 --> 02:56:46,221
here in the monitors it's dark in here

3896
02:56:50,560 --> 02:56:48,891
yeah and I really enjoyed it so I hope

3897
02:56:53,950 --> 02:56:50,570
everybody has some great dreams tonight

3898
02:56:56,740 --> 02:56:53,960
the book is more goes to chronicles now

3899
02:56:59,500 --> 02:56:56,750
tomorrow night again I've got to give

3900
02:57:02,110 --> 02:56:59,510
everybody the heads up we have sha de

3901
02:57:04,480 --> 02:57:02,120
lune which also from Massachusetts on

3902
02:57:07,570 --> 02:57:04,490
with this tomorrow night for our fifth

3903
02:57:10,961 --> 02:57:07,580
annual shava loon which Halloween

3904
02:57:13,720 --> 02:57:10,971
special event and we are going to go

3905
02:57:16,511 --> 02:57:13,730
through about 100 readings and phone

3906
02:57:18,520 --> 02:57:16,521
calls tomorrow night and with everybody

3907
02:57:21,730 --> 02:57:18,530
you know what it's like it's going to be

3908
02:57:24,490 --> 02:57:21,740
very very busy on the phones they just

3909
02:57:28,200 --> 02:57:24,500
all we need is your name and a question

3910
02:57:32,200 --> 02:57:28,210
and we'll get you in and out and also

3911
02:57:33,671 --> 02:57:32,210
tomorrow night if you happen to get

3912
02:57:36,551 --> 02:57:33,681
through on the phones tomorrow night and

3913
02:57:40,120 --> 02:57:36,561
you were with Shaw in any of the past

3914
02:57:43,961 --> 02:57:40,130
years briefly I want to hear from you

3915
02:57:46,301 --> 02:57:43,971
briefly what happened with the

3916
02:57:48,820 --> 02:57:46,311
predictions from the years gone past and

3917
02:57:50,921 --> 02:57:48,830
we've had many many calls like that over

3918
02:57:53,500 --> 02:57:50,931
the year so I do want to hear from you

3919
02:57:55,600 --> 02:57:53,510
tomorrow night so with that that

3920
02:57:58,030 --> 02:57:55,610
concludes another fade to black and and

3921
02:58:00,551 --> 02:57:58,040
I want to thank Maureen wood for coming

3922
02:58:03,700 --> 02:58:00,561
in great stories the book is fantastic

3923
02:58:07,211 --> 02:58:03,710
and how about that new London ledge

3924
02:58:09,310 --> 02:58:07,221
lighthouse huh is that crazy I'm

3925
02:58:11,410 --> 02:58:09,320
watching everybody's comments totally

3926
02:58:14,341 --> 02:58:11,420
cool I'll see everybody here tomorrow

3927
02:58:16,710 --> 02:58:14,351
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3928
02:58:20,069 --> 02:58:16,720
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3929
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3930
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3931
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3932
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block of the game-changer network I'm

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out of here

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Rita and I are gonna go find a taco

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truck because it's Taco Tuesday until

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tomorrow night I am your host Jimmy

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Church follow me on twitter @ JT radio

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everybody be safe